Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
^ All I can say is there is no factual basis for any of these statements you are making.
The LTTE has NO religion based conflict with Sri Lanka. They want equal rights, just like the Singalese have. You are trying awful hard to somehow impute religion into this and failing.
Tamils in India are Indians. Tamils in Sri Lanka are NOT Indians.
This thread is about Indians, so when you start confusing non-Indians with Indians it doesn't make any sense.
If on the other hand your argument is that since the Tamils of Sri Lanka are of Indian origin and therefore they should be considered as Indians in this discussion then by the same same token all Pakistanis and Bangla Deshis are of Indian origin too and therefore will need to be included in the Indian bracket.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
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This thread is about Indians, so when you start confusing non-Indians with Indians it doesn't make any sense.
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Well really this thread is for Brits then ;)
Remember we are talking about Hindus living in Britain who are decedents of people from Pakistan, BDesh, and India, Africa, Caribbean, and native born Brits.
However all of them are "British". If you want to do a scientific comparison then don't try to reduce the sample size to the minimum just to suite your version. Make this sample as large as possible, then compare and decide.
Peace and love for all.
p.s. My earlier posts were to emphasize on "Hope for the future". It is good thing that Indian-British have more hope than Pakistani-Indians.
However Tamil-Hindus in S Lanka have lost hope, and that is precisely why they have developed suicidal methods just like the hopeless bunch among Pakistani-Britons.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
Well really this thread is for Brits then ;)
** Remember we are talking about Hindus** living in Britain who are decedents of people from Pakistan, BDesh, and India, Africa, Caribbean, and native born Brits.
However all of them are "British". If you want to do a scientific comparison then don't try to reduce the sample size to the minimum just to suite your version. Make this sample as large as possible, then compare and decide.
Peace and love for all.
p.s. My earlier posts were to emphasize on "Hope for the future". It is good thing that Indian-British have more hope than Pakistani-Indians.
** However Tamil-Hindus in S Lanka **have lost hope, and that is precisely why they have developed suicidal methods just like the hopeless bunch among Pakistani-Britons.
I think the two phrases I have highlighted in this quote are inaccurate.
We are discussing Indians settled in UK, not Hindus settled in UK - which in fact is a subset!
The people rebelling in Sri Lanka are Tamils - made up of not just Hindus but other religions too. The conflict has NO religious cause; the people of Tamil origin are demanding same rights as those of Singhalese origin.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
^ that is not talking about kids in UK does it? I think it is referring to kids studying in Pakistan.
I don't think there can be vast differences amongst kids of different countries in their home turf. After all it boils down to parents wanting their children to be educated, schools being available and teachers being there.
Once people migrate to a alien country then the society and circumstances into which the kids are thrown into changes. the migrant parents seem to have limited influence in certain communities than others.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
I know. Was comparing them with their counterparts in Pakistan.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
.......**The people rebelling in Sri Lanka are Tamils - made up of not just Hindus but other religions too. The conflict has NO religious cause; **the people of Tamil origin are demanding same rights as those of Singhalese origin.
Tamils are majority Hindus, just like Arabs are majority Muslims regardless of a specific country.
Just like many Arabs have lost hope for their future, and thus have resorted to suicide bombing.
Tamils in S Lanka too, have lost hope for the future and thus have resorted to suicide bombing.
The examples clearly show that just like trbial Muslims, Hindus too are capable of committing heinous atrocities given the right circumstances.
UK Pakistani kids in general are being sapped of the hope in the name of religion or ethnicity, and thus their motivation to be in schools system for a long time is relatively low.
However Pakistani kids in America still have a lot of hope for their future, and off course they meet or exceed the results of Indian students.
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
^ ah, so now we have moved from Tamils are Hindus to Tamils are majority Hindus. You can say that of all of India, so why just Tamils?
you have missed the point entirely. The conflict in Srilanka is NOT a religious conflict but an ethnic one.
Is your motive to somehow justify the atrocities by jihadis by saying others can also do it? of course others can but they chose not to in many cases. That is the civility that is missing in many muslim countries involved in terrorism. You cannot equivocate and justify these things. For example until a couple of years ago a friend of mine from Pakistan used to compare the LTTE and the mujhideen insurrections into Kashmir. Whenever I tell him about Pakistan sending cross-border terrorists into India he used to say "oh yeah, then why you people are sending Tamils into Sri Lanka". Took him a while to understand the Tamils have been there for generations and it is neither a political nor a religious fight. Ofcourse he stopped saying that once things started going down in Pakistan and the mujahideen stopped insurrenctions.
On your last point - I do not think there is any genetic difference between Indian and Pakistani kids; kids of motivated parents will do well any where as long as there are schools and jobs. Religion will always be there
But what can you do as parents if the teenage kids who are rebellious by nature and who in a migrant country have a lot of opportunity to be particularly angry because all the white kids and black kids are well established and the browns will always be second to them? On top of that with the daily comic news of coups and wardi and jihad coming from Pakistan and other countries - pretty soon kids are bound to be ashamed to be called by muslim names in public. That grows anger even further. And then they find like minded guys in mosques and add a fiery imam to it and it is like adding a spark to a powder keg.
Those kids who are protected from this path - there is no reason they should not do well. There are so many many opportunities
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
Look! Tamils are tamils. If they have hope in India they do well. If they have no hope in S Lanka, they commit suicide in the name of "Tamil nationalism" or "Tamil Hinduism". Why it is so with Tamil Hinduism? Because their big issues are with Buddhist S Lanka government.
If I remember correctly, it was a Tamil Hindu women suicider from India who killed Rajiv.
peace and love for all.
your comments are foolish if you use word like "Tamil Hindusim" may be you used it because you are obsessed with hindusim or hindus
the conflict in Sri lanka is ethnic conflict and not religious
most of the sinhalese are buddhist and buddha is one of the hindu god
Tamilians in Srilanka follow Hindusim, Muslim, Christianity
and note that all most all muslims in Srilanka are tamilian
as muslim don't believe in Nationalism so they go seperate with LTTE,
and Tamil Christian and Hindus are united in LTTE Struggle
Mods can lock this thread as the discussions here are diverted and almost off topic
Re: Why are Pakistani results in UK so low?
your comments are foolish if you use word like "Tamil Hindusim" may be you used it because you are obsessed with hindusim or hindus
the conflict in Sri lanka is ethnic conflict and not religious
most of the sinhalese are buddhist and buddha is one of the hindu god
Tamilians in Srilanka follow Hindusim, Muslim, Christianity
and note that all most all muslims in Srilanka are tamilian
as muslim don't believe in Nationalism so they go seperate with LTTE,
and Tamil Christian and Hindus are united in LTTE Struggle
Mods can lock this thread as the discussions here are diverted and almost off topic
Read SSingh’s post # 8
And simplyMe’s post # 9
Then move to Stircrasy post # 12
And quit running to the mods without gaining proper perspective of this thread.