WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

[Light_Bearer]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@smma59

Blind faith on what? existence of Allah?

Blind faith means when you become lakeer ka faqeer. Whatever the mullah sez becomes right, and you follow it without question.

[RashGuy]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

The main problem with muslims is that their thinking revolves around religion. I dont think there is any other community in the world which is so obsessed with religion. It is time muslims started thinking about individual growth and well being. Once that happens, the members would be in a better position to contribute to the growth of the community. Jews though they are fiercely protective of their religion, they have the common sense to put self above. This has enabled them to control most the of the businesses in US. That is the power of empowering your own self.
For a moment imagine these so called suicide bombers working hard to create money for themselves. Then these idiots would be able to donate a substantial portion of their income to community driven causes. They would be able to run businesses which would be able to control political power in US.
But alas nothing of this sort is happening in the muslim world. People have a false notion of community bonding and this is what is driving the muslim world down....

[hollowman]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

coz

1. Muslims do not use their mind at all.
   (i.e. more than 90% inventions have been invented by westerns which we use in our everyday life, even westerns have changed the life style of Dubai in past few years)

2. Muslims are so fanatic about their religion called Islam.
   (Extremist can never bring peace anywhere)

3. And at last according to me If muslim will run after Islam Muslim Islam Muslim Islam Muslim all the time they will remain powerless.

m i right Captain ???

[salhu]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@RashGuy

The main problem with muslims is that their thinking revolves around religion. I dont think there is any other community in the world which is so obsessed with religion. It is time muslims started thinking about individual growth and well being. Once that happens, the members would be in a better position to contribute to the growth of the community. Jews though they are fiercely protective of their religion, they have the common sense to put self above. This has enabled them to control most the of the businesses in US. That is the power of empowering your own self.
For a moment imagine these so called suicide bombers working hard to create money for themselves. Then these idiots would be able to donate a substantial portion of their income to community driven causes. They would be able to run businesses which would be able to control political power in US.
But alas nothing of this sort is happening in the muslim world. People have a false notion of community bonding and this is what is driving the muslim world down…

What non-sense you are teaching here.
Do you want to say that following Islam in any way prevents you from being highly educated or does it prevents you from being a big successful businessman (that was the profession of the Prophet). Or do you want to say that following Islam keeps you from any other bright aspect of life? If you want to support a real fact that the muslims states are failure in current modern world, try to find real arguments, not wrong ones. Even if your life revolves around religion, you can do lots of good for the world.

[Sharaabi]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@Light Bearer

Blind faith means when you become lakeer ka faqeer. Whatever the mullah sez becomes right, and you follow it without question.

What if the mullah provides proof from the Quran and Sunnah?

[AllahkaBanda]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@anjjan

I think this concept is incorrect.

In fact while learning Quran in Madrisas at their childhood they consume everything very seriously…including that …Quran is the only source of knolewdge or Quran is the best source of knowledge.

And no scope remains for other sources.

@RashGuy

The main problem with muslims is that their thinking revolves around religion. I dont think there is any other community in the world which is so obsessed with religion. It is time muslims started thinking about individual growth and well being. Once that happens, the members would be in a better position to contribute to the growth of the community. Jews though they are fiercely protective of their religion, they have the common sense to put self above. This has enabled them to control most the of the businesses in US. That is the power of empowering your own self.
For a moment imagine these so called suicide bombers working hard to create money for themselves. Then these idiots would be able to donate a substantial portion of their income to community driven causes. They would be able to run businesses which would be able to control political power in US.
But alas nothing of this sort is happening in the muslim world. People have a false notion of community bonding and this is what is driving the muslim world down…

@hollowman

coz

1. Muslims do not use their mind at all.
   (i.e. more than 90% inventions have been invented by westerns which we use in our everyday life, even westerns have changed the life style of Dubai in past few years)

2. Muslims are so fanatic about their religion called Islam.
   (Extremist can never bring peace anywhere)

3. And at last according to me If muslim will run after Islam Muslim Islam Muslim Islam Muslim all the time they will remain powerless.

m i right Captain ???

What a pathetic responses! I guess, this is all we can expect from the enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala!

honestly, this is not a good topic to start with when we already know what kind of answer we’ll get from people, Allahhu Akbar.

reasons of muslims not ruling the world

1- lack of practcing Islam and not being muslims
2- no unity among muslims
3- lack of deep ISlamic knowledge
4- failing to understand the true reasons of our existence and faling into the traps of enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala (e.g. our so called “moderate” muslim brothers/sisters)

[yo_wasim]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

:k:

@AllahkaBanda

What a pathetic responses! I guess, this is all we can expect from the enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala!

honestly, this is not a good topic to start with when we already know what kind of answer we’ll get from people, Allahhu Akbar.

reasons of muslims not ruling the world

1- lack of practcing Islam and not being muslims
2- no unity among muslims
3- lack of deep ISlamic knowledge
4- failing to understand the true reasons of our existence and faling into the traps of enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala (e.g. our so called “moderate” muslim brothers/sisters)

[anjjan]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@AllahkaBanda

What a pathetic responses! I guess, this is all we can expect from the enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala!

honestly, this is not a good topic to start with when we already know what kind of answer we’ll get from people, Allahhu Akbar.

reasons of muslims not ruling the world

1- lack of practcing Islam and not being muslims
2- no unity among muslims
3- lack of deep ISlamic knowledge
4- failing to understand the true reasons of our existence and faling into the traps of enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta’ala (e.g. our so called “moderate” muslim brothers/sisters)

This response is an accurate example…the way he has blocked his mind agaisnt all kind of information and rational thinking.

[smma59]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@Light Bearer

Blind faith means when you become lakeer ka faqeer. Whatever the mullah sez becomes right, and you follow it without question.

whatever true mullah says is written in quran. and if we are muslims we must obey quran or you can say rules made by Allah. Do you say this is lakkeer ka fakeer?

wassalam

[smma59]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

reasons of muslims not ruling the world

1- lack of practcing Islam and not being muslims
2- no unity among muslims
3- lack of deep ISlamic knowledge
4- failing to understand the true reasons of our existence and faling into the traps of enemies of Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta'ala (e.g. our so called "moderate" muslim brothers/sisters)

Important is what is the solution?

wassalam

[RashGuy]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

[quote]

Originally posted by Salhu

What non-sense you are teaching here.
Do you want to say that following Islam in any way prevents you from being highly educated or does it prevents you from being a big successful businessman (that was the profession of the Prophet). Or do you want to say that following Islam keeps you from any other bright aspect of life? If you want to support a real fact that the muslims states are failure in current modern world, try to find real arguments, not wrong ones. Even if your life revolves around religion, you can do lots of good for the world.

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This is the exact problem with the so called islamists inhabiting this forum. They are not able to comprehend simple english. Once religion becomes everything in the lives of ordinary people, the extremists find it very easy to brainwash these ordinary people. That is the reason we see most modern muslims still clinging on to age old beliefs. If you take a common sense argument, you see only muslims lagging behind...

[salhu]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@RashGuy

This is the exact problem with the so called islamists inhabiting this forum. They are not able to comprehend simple english. Once religion becomes everything in the lives of ordinary people, the extremists find it very easy to brainwash these ordinary people. That is the reason we see most modern muslims still clinging on to age old beliefs. If you take a common sense argument, you see only muslims lagging behind…

Comprehend simple english? Ordinary people? Common sense argument?

I understand you want toaddress me and all the muslmis with these words; if this is what you have in your mind for all the muslims then your brain rellay wants to be brainwashed. You want to say all those muslims who want to follow islam are just ordinary people, hard of comprehesion and do not have common sense? Do you care to think at all before you write any post here in this forum?

[RashGuy]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

^^

If you dont understand english, please move on. We are discussing why muslims are so powerless in this world. I dont have to get into proving how powerless they are Or should I. A country half the size of the country of the land of the pure is able to attack its neighbouring countries at will and the muslim countries can just whimper.

I have put forth my argument on why the muslims are so powerless. If you have valid arguments to refute them, then talk otherwise just blabber or better still move on !!!

[Sharaabi]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@RashGuy

This is the exact problem with the so called islamists inhabiting this forum. They are not able to comprehend simple english. Once religion becomes everything in the lives of ordinary people, the extremists find it very easy to brainwash these ordinary people. That is the reason we see most modern muslims still clinging on to age old beliefs. If you take a common sense argument, you see only muslims lagging behind...

and brainwashing the masses with hedonistic idealogies is fine?

Atleast the muslims are clinging on to beliefs that are stable and sound, unlike the West where the beliefs and morals change like the weather.

[AllahkaBanda]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@anjjan

This response is an accurate example....the way he has blocked his mind agaisnt all kind of information and rational thinking.

hahaha...again same kind of response from you. Thank you so much, if you think i'm not rational thinker then i'm better off with being irrational thinker. The islamic information is enough for me to make me a better human being than you!

Just remember something, the Creator, Allah Subhaanhu Wa Ta'ala, deserved to be loved more than His creation who can't do anything without His will!

[anjjan]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

@AllahkaBanda

The islamic information is enough for me to make me a better human being than you!
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And for this reason Muslims are trailing. There is no compulsion in gainng knowledge.

[SindSagar]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

So there are more than 2 million Muslims in the Good Old USA, does any one know what percentage are Scientists, Doctors & Engineers, for sure a very high percentage.

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Any one heard of Brain Drain?
Let us quite bashing the old countries shall we!!!

[anjjan]

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@SindSagar

So there are more than 2 million Muslims in the Good Old USA, does any one know what percentage are Scientists, Doctors & Engineers, for sure a very high percentage.
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No, it is not very high percentage. And whenever a rare Muslim becomes a Scientist or achievs some high position the all community makes a great noise for it being a rare phenomenon.

[RashGuy]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

[quote]

Originally quoted by Sharabhi

Atleast the muslims are clinging on to beliefs that are stable and sound, unlike the West where the beliefs and morals change like the weather.

[/quote]

When the muslims are clinging onto stable beliefs the world as such is moving along at a fast pace. It is time that the so called modern muslims realise the follies of their brethern, instead of rationalising their actions on the basis of root causes and the like. Only when ordinary muslims will understand that to improve their lot, they need to improve themselves individually will the community develop...
Till this simple fact is not understood, muslims would continue to remain powerless.

[PakistaniAbroad]

Re: WHY ARE MUSLIMS SO POWERLESS?

Disunity..

i'll drop the names of a few sects that will be enough to get the whole 'ummah' all worked up and ready to kick each other out of the 'daira of Islam'.

Until an unless "Muslim" nations rise above their prejudices and beliefs and learn to keep religion in their pants and not carry it as the log on their shoulder.. things wouldn't change a bit..