LOL... Im really beating my head against the wall with you.
That you accept a belief is one thing, WHY you accept it is quite another.
Evolution is a belief thats accepted because there is evidence to support it. Religion is a belief thats accepted because people simply want to accept it, even though its not based on any evidence.
Its accepted as fact BECAUSE there is evidence for it, and because no one has been able to disprove it. The accumulation of evidence puts weight behind it.
As I mentioned before, we know how species change. We have done it ourselves with Dogs, horses, cattle, hell its even evident in humans themselves. Its only inevitable that with continued differentiation, changes to the genome, enough accumulation of new genetic information will produce a completely new species, thats unable to breed with its predecessor. I mean, I dont know how to explain this to you.
Mutations, new genetic information, all leads to new species.
I mean micro evolution really is to Macro evolution what an inch is to a mile. Enough inches inevitably lead to a mile and enough micro evolution leads to macro evolution.
Its not a lack of scientific evidence, its not understanding the science that is creating this conflict in your mind.
Its really simple.** I mean, mutations accumulate. Accumulate over a long times and you have a huge amount of mutations. Eventually there are so many mutations that you have a completely new genome. Thats when you have a new species.
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Its like a drop of water in a bucket. Eventually that bucket will spillover.
My friend I do know what inevitable means.
And I do understand what you are trying to say.
Inevitable = "Something which is going to happen for sure" OR Something which is bound to happen or difficult / impossible to avoide.
My position based on this as above remains same. :)
Inevitable = "Something which is going to happen for sure" OR Something which is bound to happen or difficult / impossible to avoide.
My position based on this as above remains same. :)
Inevitable means, it will happen for sure. Another words, animals left to themselves, within a given environment, will evolve and differentiate over time.
Its really a matter of 2 plus 2 here. Think about it. Its very simple.
Mera bhai! Are you kidding here? How simple does this concept have to be?
Do you know that there are 63360 inches in a mile? But im sure you have never actually measured with a ruler that amount of length yourself. So would you doubt that an inch could ever equal a mile?
Animals the can change, breeding is an example of this. If you continue to breed dogs farther and farther from their wolf ancestor they will eventually be a new species, defined by the fact that they are no longer able to breed with wolves and produce offspring that can themselves breed..
Anyways, I cant keep debating someone who doesnt get simple concepts. But its been fun.
Inevitable means, it will happen for sure. Another words, animals left to themselves, within a given environment, will *evolve and differentiate over time. *
Its really a matter of 2 plus 2 here. Think about it. Its very simple.
You do know that is not a proven statement yet! So many examples where evolutionists have tred to prove, but fail miserably.
Really, If animals left alone they evolve? Isn't this what is being refuted so far?
Mera bhai! Are you kidding here? How simple does this concept have to be?
Do you know that there are 63360 inches in a mile? But im sure you have never actually measured with a ruler that amount of length yourself. So would you doubt that an inch could ever equal a mile?
No. Somene has measured.
But NO ONE has 'seen' evolution. That is the difference.
I wish evolution theory was so easy that it coule be measured by measuring tape.
Animals the can change, breeding is an example of this. If you continue to breed dogs farther and farther from their wolf ancestor they will eventually be a new species, defined by the fact that they are no longer able to breed with wolves and produce offspring that can themselves breed..
That is adaptation. Not evolution.Two different concepts.
Anyways, I cant keep debating someone who doesnt get simple concepts. But its been fun.
Guys, in many other arguments when people argue for science it is usually something between natural and man made.
Whereas in the "origin of human" debate the religious side is calling GOD what the the other side is calling Natural process. You two are just arguing about a monicker.
PS: both of you are wrong by the way. But you have to evolve to accept that.
Thanks. But there is a difference between organisms supposedly evolving and this theory still evolving.
Still evolving but never proven theory. ;)
theories are never proven. you fail to accept the basics...there is really no discussion, you want to use religion to argue a scietific theory. do you have an equally sound opposing [scientific] theory with as much evidence, observation, research? no right ;)
Guys, in many other arguments when people argue for science it is usually something between natural and man made.
Whereas in the "origin of human" debate the religious side is calling GOD what the the other side is calling Natural process. You two are just arguing about a monicker.
PS: both of you are wrong by the way. But you have to evolve to accept that.
I think you are over simplifying to bring about a consensus.
Scientists say human evolved in to present form millions of years ago and still evolving and so is every other creature on the planet.
And some sections of religions say god made it all in blink of an eye bypassing all other evolutionary steps.
Big difference there is. Intervention of gods is divine process not natural.
Thanks. But there is a difference between organisms supposedly evolving and this theory still evolving.
Still evolving but never proven theory. ;)
Well on the same token creation theory is evolving and changig every day as well. there are hundreds of them and it changed thousands of time since human started thinking.
Evolution is a belief thats accepted because there is evidence to support it. Religion is a belief thats accepted because people simply want to accept it, even though its not based on any evidence.
Its accepted as fact BECAUSE there is evidence for it, and because no one has been able to disprove it. The accumulation of evidence puts weight behind it.
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What a strange thing to say about religion ... People have always sought evidence for the truth in the religion brought by prophets ... they were shown miracle upon miracle ... The Qur'an was revealed to the Arabs, they had before them the most truthful person ... if these are not signs of truth then what is?
Evidence is present in both evolution and religion ... both diwana and me have no problem with that, but there is a certain type of evidence that is called proof, which is undeniable that does not exist for evolution theory. Please read up on proof and how to establish it. Certain aspects of the sophisticated theory does have proof, but that is part and parcel of the deception ... they will take from what is fact and mix it with conjecture and present it to you as a whole. Lots of supporting material from different aspects is not proof unless it prevents the idea that anything else could be true.
Evolution has been disproven upon each new discovery, but all they do is modify the theory and put a new "neo" before it and hey presto not disproven. You can't disprove something that you change to match the evidence ...
What a strange thing to say about religion ... People have always sought evidence for the truth in the religion brought by prophets ... they were shown miracle upon miracle ... The Qur'an was revealed to the Arabs, they had before them the most truthful person ... if these are not signs of truth then what is?
Evidence is present in both evolution and religion ... both diwana and me have no problem with that, but there is a certain type of evidence that is called proof, which is undeniable that does not exist for evolution theory. Please read up on proof and how to establish it. Certain aspects of the sophisticated theory does have proof, but that is part and parcel of the deception ... they will take from what is fact and mix it with conjecture and present it to you as a whole. Lots of supporting material from different aspects is not proof unless it prevents the idea that anything else could be true.
Evolution has been disproven upon each new discovery, but all they do is modify the theory and put a new "neo" before it and hey presto not disproven. You can't disprove something that you change to match the evidence ...
What evidence is present in religion? And what evidence is presented to the people who seek truth in religion?
