Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

[yazdi]

Re: Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

@psyah

Peace yazdi

You write too much and we cannot move on until we have established simple facts and assertions … I’m not getting angry … frustrated may be … Now you said that I said “speciation cannot occur under any circumstance” its always the first hurdle … I don’t have to go far to stop you and our conversations are like this … throughout the whole thread you have been trying to say that I have said something when indeed I have never said it … all I ask from you is show me the post number and paragaph where I said the above quote … then we’ll move on. InshaAllah … We need to be sure we are on the same page before we can continue so lets go … where did I say that?

Claim 1: Where you implied speciation can not occur and asked for the proof of speciation… your post (540)
You went to the extent of ridiculing the poor chap…

@psyah

Besides the human race are strong evidence of non-speciation … We are millions in number and we cross-breed with different races and we still remain human … we do not speciate. Is there any evidence that suggests people who are of different “race” - i.e. genetically removed from one another are less likely to have offspring with one another? I doubt it … The apparent is apparent and you do not need to provide proof for it … where proof is required is where something is not apparent … we can’t say speciation occurs, show us that it doesn’t …** we need to say show us speciation in the making.**

So Theorist … please show us speciation in the making … hmm … I forgot … you’re only a theorist .

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The same post shows my other claim that you are trying to misguide the readers by wrongly presenting the evolution concept to enable you to create an opportunity to criticize the same. According to evolution genetic drift/speciation is created in isolation.. not by mingling of genetic pool of geographically or otherwise distinct populations.. thus by giving example of interracial cross breeding you are actually working against speciation.

Allopatric speciation - Wikipedia
Allopatric speciation (from the ancient Greek allos, “other” + Greek patrida, “fatherland”) or geographic speciation is speciation that occurs when biological populations of the same species become isolated due to geographical changes such as mountain building or social changes such as emigration. The isolated populations then undergo genotypic and/or phenotypic divergence as: (a) they become subjected to different selective pressures, (b) they independently undergo genetic drift, and (c) different mutations arise in the populations’ gene pools.

Claim 2: Where you said if there are fertile hybrids can be claimed as evolution.. your post (561)

@psyah

hybridization uses two gene pools … to make a third and hence argues sterility as a genetic difference … this would be like me cross-breeding a horse with a donkey and because the mule or hinkey that results is sterile then I argue that this is evolution. The problem is that these creatures are totally sterile … they not only cannot mate with the original forms but they cannot mate with each other to have successful reproduction either … hence this is not evolution.

I may not a subscribe exactly to your religious understandings.. but I can assure you I am not dishonest..

Now can you answer the questions I have raised instead of avoiding them altogether..!!!