Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

[diwana]

Re: Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

@Theorist

^you are one of a kind, aren’t you? It’s like talking to a wall with you. Don’t try changing the subject when you are asked to put forth a scientific scholarly piece of research that shows mutations and adaptations do not lead to evolutionary changes. It should be very easy for you to find because according to you there is an overwhelming amount of scientists that agree with your pov. I have read the threAd and you have no clue what mutations or adaptation even mean and how it affects evolutionary process. Evolution depends on mutations, adaptation, and natural selection. Prove to me that these Are absolutely unrelated to evolution and i will talk to you. If you address me again in this thread without having done your homework, I will not respond. Thanks for understanding!

First evolutionists make a nutty theory. They cannot prove it. But insist they are correct.
When somene says you are incorrect. They (and people like you) say prove us wrong.

The responsibility is on those who bring the idea to prove it is true. Has not occured yet. Understood?

Read below my other response.

P.S. I know what mutation is and what makes a species species. Reading your posts I know you are just believing what you googled and yet have no clue what is the difference between adaptation and mutation. None makes a species change altogether by the way.

@psyah

Peace Theorist

You asked diwana a question: provide a “piece of research that shows mutations and adaptations do not lead to evolutionary change”

Do you not see the flaw in this request? It’s like saying “provide me some research that shows dogs do not drive cars” - The begging question is not to show mutations and adaptations do not lead to speciation, **but for those who claim that speciation occurs by this process to demonstrate it **… **Mutations are mutations and every test in mutations has NEVER resulted in a change of species that has been “observed” or “reproduced” … the pro-evolutionists claim that it does happen whilst we aren’t looking … LOL **… it only happens when we aren’t looking you see … Besides the human race are strong evidence of non-speciation … We are millions in number and we cross-breed with different races and we still remain human … we do not speciate. Is there any evidence that suggests people who are of different “race” - i.e. genetically removed from one another are less likely to have offspring with one another? I doubt it … The apparent is apparent and you do not need to provide proof for it … where proof is required is where something is not apparent … we can’t say **speciation occurs, show us that it doesn’t **… we need to say show us speciation in the making.

So Theorist … please show us speciation in the making … hmm … I forgot … you’re only a theorist …

Yes.

But, but…you are not looking at such great benefit to mankind by scientists if questioning evolutionists. How dare you?

@Theorist

^ obviously it’s easy relating to the facts because facts are there in front of your eyes. Theories are a little more difficult to deal with. Some people do treat evolution as a fact though I disagree. I cannot pass something as a fact that even scientists have issues with.

Ever heard Khoda Pahaar Nikla Choooha?

You are now getting closer to reality my friend.

I believe evolution to be a real possibility and the likelihood because there’s strong evidence for it.

Also you can’t prove evolution to be a fact because ^no evolution experiments/tests yield the same results. It makes sense that it doesn’t because if it did it would dismiss the entire idea of random mutations and evolution itself. **Like I said earlier I am no scientists

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Here lies the problem. My friend, you gave me an impression earlier that you were. I was going to ask you a sceintific question but perhaps no need for it.

but if I claimed there are a number of scientists that agree win me I would be able to find a few and bring their work to the table for discussion. I wouldn’t make such claims if I can’t fulfill them. I don’t understand what you mean by worms acquiring eyes one day to be able to see. Mutations obviously occur randomly but there’s a possibility that mutations

Mutations are largely negative traits. Adaptations are largely positive.

are directed so that species **over the period of thousands of years gain organs and abilities to do thing that were once impossible for them. This change obviously doesn’t occur overnight.Nature is not predictable neither are mutations nor conditions on the earth will remain the same over billions of years. **

Hence it is proven that it is merely speculative at best.

A man was in wheelchair.
Had no arms and legs and said to other man he is going to run a marathon and will win the race against those who have arms and legs.

Other man laughed and said you cannot do that.

The man with no arms and legs said:

“Its a real possiblity, because there is strong evidence of it.”

What would you call the man with no legs?

Let me guess…

Evolutionist!

@Theorist

Good lord! How do you call yourself a scientist with so many flaws in your own theory? I am not a scientist and even I can google it and find something reliable, an experiment that has been done over and over again and surely shows speciation in the making. I am on my iPhone so can’t post PDF files. Please look up Evolution experiment with Drosophila. If that doesn’t Show speciation in the making then I don’t know what does

No it did not. That’s adaptation. Not evolution if you are talking about wing size change with altitude.