Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

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Re: Why are Muslims against Evolution?!?

@Med911

Lets be honest with ourselves here. At the risk of sounding blasphemous, one as to admit that we really have no genuine evidence to support Islam or any other religion. That we trust the Koran is a because we choose to believe that its a valid source… Have you ever seen a miracle? Have you ever seen God? Can you prove to me with what you consider to be proof, that there is a God, and that Islam is his choosen faith? This is what I mean by intelectual dishonesty. There is nothing wrong with believing for the sake of believing, but claiming that there is evidence to support your faith, is completely dishonest. I know we al wish for irrefutable evidence for our faith, but it does not exist.

Evolution and infact any science is based on a preponderance of evidence which shows something to be true. Besides the inevitability of species differentiating and evolving into new species etc, there is complimentarity to the evidence supporting evolution.

That evolution has been disproven is comepletly new to me. How exactly has evolution been dis proven? The reason the change it is because the understanding of it evolves as you said, just as the understanding of any other science can evolve. When Einstein elaborated on the nature of gravity and its effects on space, many scientists refused to believe him and stuck to their guns. That is until it was shown to be true and so the abandoned old assumptions and moved on, but that did not mean they abandoned as discredited, the older model completely, it simply elaborated on the older model.
So Evolution as an over all reality is established, its the nuts an bolts that are still up for debate, and are the things that change as our understanding of the over all concept evolves.

Peace again Med911

I never claimed evoution has been disproven - I was stating that in order to be a valid scientific theory it has to be falsifiable. Please understand the stark contrast in these statements.

Here is genuine evidence to support Islam:

a) Holy sites and burial ground of prophet Muhammad (SAW) is in tact and present
b) The consistency in the Qur’an - it is preserved (through the hearts of people) and documentary evidence shows this
c) The classification of narrations is scientifically orchestrated since the earliest times.

Thes provide support towards the authenticity of historical and scriptural truth of Islam. Next we look at miracles - each breath I take is a miracle and the concept of gravity or life is a miracle in the true sense because not matter what science does it can take two phenomena and link them together to say what it happening - it can never say “why”.

Look up the definition of the word “phenomenon” - here is a definition:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/phenomenon

and miracle:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/miracle

To me these are not entirely different terms … to me a miracle is when a thing happens that betrays the pattern of the natural order we observe … and a phenomenon is very much part of it … both are marvels and just like a miracle cannot be explained - the existence of every phenomenon has no explanation. Every mass exhibits gravity - why? Why should every mass exhibit gravity? If this is not a miracle then what is?

Besides we have a very good miracle before us which is “The Qur’an” and now my friend is your real opportunity to sound blasphemous - are you going to argue that The Qur’an is not a miracle?

If you even study Arabic you will see how much of a miracle it is on the language front - we know the best poets of the time could not match the Qur’an and we have a completely unlettered prophet (SAW) who presents us with the scripture. Like any good scientific theory the Qur’an provides a “falsification test” unlike “evolution” - The Qur’an states: “If this were from other than God surely therein you would find much discrepency” and “bring one verse like it …” voila you have a sound falsification test … one that the evolutionists are shy of presenting to us.

Further there have been a number of recorded proven prophecies that came to fruition … not in wishy washy words but succinct accurate words.

Yet in all this conversation I am not claiming proof - just simple evidence - because if proof was given to us and we still didn’t accept it - then our fate would be similar to the nations of the past. I have been talking from the point of view that in Islam we look for guidance and are shown signs - not proof. I am behaving within the parameters of my belief. On the other hand if I operate within the parameters of science - the theory of evolution fails big time.

Here is another set of tests in the Qur’an … Paraphrased it challenges all the greatest minds to come together make the wing of a fly or that when a gnat takes our blood from us then for us to try and retrieve that blood back … Simple tests … but miraculously accurate …