I have few questions to the supporters of above parties, why they have failed to condemn deadly blasts executed by terrorists? Are above people think that these blasts are justified that are killing innocent people? Why don’t they come out in public to say whether they support these blasts or oppose these blasts? Are they not part of Pakistani political system? Keeping quiet at this crucial time show their level of patroitism and love for the people. Shame on them.
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
They are silent because no matter what they say, they support Taliban's fanatic ideology.
This is why they are a security risk for Pakistan. Every Muslim and Pakistan who understands their past would disown them.
These people are the ones who justify anti-Islam activities of Talibanic mentality.
i think everybody is hopeless as this govt is sort of bay-ghairat.
govt is required to take action first. after mumbai attackes indian home minister had to resign but here we witness no such change and rehman malik is still on the seat.
once in a blue malik gives statement that india is involved in these activities but when asked for proof he says that i will provide to the indian ministers when they will come to pakistan............... ridiculous.
u can go to UNO for murder investigation (instead of lodging FIR first) but u cant protest in UNO ,on the issue that neighbouring country is involved in terrorist activities in pakistan.
and our president say that Contracts and agreements are not like quran and hadith.
ur protest cant make scoundrel rite.
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
Does not make any sense whatsoever what you are saying.
You obviously do not watch television.
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
**تکفیر کی اصطلاح کفر سے نکلی ہے۔ تکفیری ایسے شخص کو کہتے ہیں جو دیگر مسلمانوں کو عقیدے کی کمزوری یا خرابی کے سبب کافر یا مرتد سمجھے اور ایسے مسلمانوں کے قتل کو جائز جانے۔
کسی بھی مسلمان کو مرتد یا کافر قرار دینے کا ایک شرعی طریقہ کار ہے جس کی روشنی میں صاحبِ علم اور مجاز علما ہی کسی کے عقیدے کا فیصلہ کرنے کے اہل ہیں۔ لیکن بہت سے گروہ جن میں سے غالب اکثریت سلفی نظریے سے متاثر ہے خود کو اس کا اہل گردانتے ہیں کہ وہ کسی فرد یا گروہ کے ایمان کے بارے میں فیصلہ دے سکیں۔ یہ وہ گروہ ہیں جو سلفی نظریے کی مذید انتہا پسندانہ شکل کے نمائندے ہیں۔ ان کے نزدیک جو شخص یا گروہ یا مسلمان حکومت اسلام کے بارے میں ان کی تشریح سے متفق نہیں وہ ایک خالص اسلامی معاشرے کے قیام کی راہ میں اپنی بدعقیدگی کے سبب ایک رکاوٹ ہے جسے ہٹانے کے لیے تشدد سمیت کوئی بھی طریقہ جائز اور شرعی ہے۔
تاریخ میں اس سے ملتا جلتا نظریہ خارجی فرقے کے ہاں ملتا ہے۔ اور تکفیری عقیدے کی جدید شکل طالبان، القاعدہ، مصر اور الجزائر میں متحرک جماع الاسلامیہ جیسے شدت پسند گروہ سمجھے جاتے ہیں۔
اسامہ بن لادن کا ذاتی نظریہ یہ ہے کہ نتیجہ اہم ہے اس تک پہنچنے کے لیے کوئی بھی راستہ اختیار کیا جاسکتا ہے۔ بقول ان کے'ضروری نہیں ہے کہ جو بھی اس جہاد کا حصہ بنے وہ اسلامی اصولوں پر اپنی ذات کی حد تک پوری طرح سے عمل پیرا ہو۔ اسکی نیت زیادہ اہم ہے۔'
جب امریکی ٹائم میگزین نے مصر کی شدت پسند تنظیم جماع الاسلامیہ کے فکری قائد شیخ عمر عبدالرحمان سے انٹرویو میں پوچھا کہ جو عام شہری کار بم کے دھماکوں میں بے گناہ مارے جاتے ہیں ان کے بارے میں آپ کیا کہتے ہیں۔ شیخ عمر کا جواب تھا کہ اگر یہ ایکشن دورانِ جنگ لیا گیا ہے اور اس کے نتیجے میں عام لوگ مارے جاتے ہیں تو یہ تشدد کے بدلے تشدد کا عمل ہے اور اس کی ذمہ داری تشدد کا جواب دینے والے پر عائد نہیں کی جاسکتی۔
تکفیری اسے بھی جائز سمجھتے ہیں کہ اگر دشمنوں کو مارنے کے لیے ایک شخص جان بوجھ کر خود کو ہلاک کرتا ہے تو وہ شہید ہے۔
ڈاکٹر ایمن الزواہری تکفیری سوچ کا ایک سرکردہ نشان ہیں۔ جب وہ سن اسی کے عشرے میں صدر انور سادات کے قتل کے بعد قاہرہ کی جیل میں تھے تو ان کے بقول وہ لوگ جو ایک فاسق و فاجر حکومت کے ہوتے ہوئے چپ رہتے ہیں یا مزاحمتی اسلامی قوتوں کی مدد نہیں کرتے تو وہ بھی فاسق و فاجر حکومت کے مددگار اور واجب القتل ہیں۔ اسی دور میں قاہرہ میں دھماکوں کی ایک مختصر لہر بھی آئی جس میں عام شہریوں کے ساتھ غیر ملکی سیاح بھی ہلاک ہوئے۔
پشاور میں ایک سو تیرہ عورتوں، بچوں اور عام مردوں کی ہلاکت آپ کے نزدیک درندگی ہو، لیکن تکفیری نظریے کی روشنی میں ان کی ہلاکت ایک شرعی اور جائز عمل ہے۔۔۔
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Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
I think these mention Parties agreed with this Wasatullah Khan analysis...
I have few questions to the supporters of above parties, why they have failed to condemn deadly blasts executed by terrorists? Are above people think that these blasts are justified that are killing innocent people? Why don’t they come out in public to say whether they support these blasts or oppose these blasts? Are they not part of Pakistani political system? Keeping quiet at this crucial time show their level of patroitism and love for the people. Shame on them.
They want to live... maybe?
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
Eid ul Azha is near :D: they dont wana lose KHALEN
and they dont worry about humen`s khalen
problem with JI is understandable they (taliban) are part of them, many arrested had been JI members and to some point their goals converge and another thing is and that is understandable they are thick heads, all of their existence their politics revolved around IFs and BUTs .
as for imran khan and i am clueless reason for this is i dont have doubt about his integrity he may have any views.
what i dont understand of him and sometimes he seems too naive is that he mixes things up and sometimes he is right.
what he doesnt seem to comprehend is no matter what happens in afghanistan these TTP are not going to go away easily they have tasted the blood all roads for them are closed and they are the threat to us.
what they TTP has done is more damaging than drone attacks and one of the causes for TTP rise may have been drone attacks but it aint a part of solution so he needs to set his priorities right dont give TTP any margin whether drone attacks or not or whether one likes US policies or not.
there is no doubt in my mind we need to finish off this monster TTP and all ideologies of Mad Jihad related to it whether taliban are good or bad i dont want my country to be part of them in any case.
these guys who argue for US policies forget that we had bombings in mosque before US came and many roads even at that time lead to afghanistan as well as lashkare jhangvi was based there as well.
I have yet to see the policy statements on these blasts by these four entities. To me they directly or indirectly apporve these bombings killing only innocent people.
I have few questions to the supporters of above parties, why they have failed to condemn deadly blasts executed by terrorists? Are above people think that these blasts are justified that are killing innocent people? Why don’t they come out in public to say whether they support these blasts or oppose these blasts? Are they not part of Pakistani political system? Keeping quiet at this crucial time show their level of patroitism and love for the people. Shame on them.
They were making money at the Time of Zia together by supporting America in its war against Russia on the soil of Afghanistan exept I.K. I.K. was busy in making money for (or in the name of) hospital. So thay are old partners of Al-Qaida and Taliban. How can they condemn their partners.
govt is required to take action first. after mumbai attackes indian home minister had to resign but here we witness no such change and rehman malik is still on the seat.
once in a blue malik gives statement that india is involved in these activities but when asked for proof he says that i will provide to the indian ministers when they will come to pakistan............... ridiculous.
u can go to UNO for murder investigation (instead of lodging FIR first) but u cant protest in UNO ,on the issue that neighbouring country is involved in terrorist activities in pakistan.
and our president say that Contracts and agreements are not like quran and hadith.
ur protest cant make scoundrel rite.
I can understand your hatred and outburst against Zardari and co. But this thread is focused more on opposition role in condeming or approving the actions of terrorists whose only targets are innocent people. Don't you think it is high time that JI, JUI, PML(N) and Imran Khan open up and say something on this crucial issue?
Please avoid tangent posts, for which you are free to open up new thread.
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
@Niden
A big Irony in this thread, please be just a bit Educated,
State Run Media with Dictation of Rehman Malik
would give some value coverage to Opposition leaders statements ?
Where are you living man ? , I am planely astonished for your perception?
and who to comdemn , would you point some one here to comdemn for these wave of Terrorism?
Taliban ??????????????
Like Osama Bin Ladin was blamed for Attackes on Pentagone ? and till Eight years no evidence have been produced for that in the World of JUSTICE.
Like Iraq was destroyed and still under processes of Massive distruction in the name of Weapons of Mass Distruction ?
You seems VERY CONSFUSED or have just opted for to Blindly support "Zalims and Zulum"
I think these mention Parties agreed with this Wasatullah Khan analysis...
Brother you need some correction here
Fazal Rehman , I too donot like to support him for several reasons but, here Wusat's blog does not goes to them.
Are you aware that The So-called Taliban's also are againsta Fazal-U-Rehman.
Re: Why are JI, JUI, PML(N) and IK Quiet on deadly blasts?
Why only the parties listed above. Where are PPP leaders. I have not seen any leader goign to the funerals of jawans who have laid their lives to condole with families or to go to the house of people who are killed by terrorists. No one from PPP is coming our of their ministerial homes or PM house or Presidential palace to show their unity with the common man. pathetic people.
Exactly!
It is the government's (PPP/coalition partners) job to protect the citizens of the country and I have not seen any government official visiting victims in hospitals or sympathising with their relatives nevermind going to the troubled areas of Swat and South Waziristan to give moral support to the jawans who are fighting a difficult war. Is it not the moral duty of President and PM to atleast pay a cursory visit to these areas, hospitals, battlefield etc. to give moral support to everyone like COAS has done? Their apathy is pathetic. It is almost like they don't care. Opposition parties and those not even in parliament (PTI) are not obliged to say anything on these attacks. But their silence should no be taken to mean that they support terrorism. That is gross exaggeration and nonsense.
Only ANP has openly spoken out against these attacks
Zardari has not been seen in public since taking office 14 months ago, such is his confidence or lack of it
As I already said this thread is aimed at opposition. What you said is also applied to the parties I have mentioned. Present feable PPP government is under enormous pressue from all sides, they are now direct part of Taliban/Jehadi elimination gave their full support to military in their operation "Rahe Raast". Where are these goons who consider themsekves as champion of every cause? Where is their policy statements regarding blasts which targets only common people?
State Run Media with Dictation of Rehman Malik would give some value coverage to Opposition leaders statements ?
Will you avoid personal attacks and just focus on the topic? Present day media is "maadar pidar aazad" they are allowed to publish anything they want. Rehman Malik is not information minister who is giving dictation to the media.
Back to the topic, where is their statements regarding blasts and killing innocent people? I think they in fact approve/accept these blasts, forgetting that they can also be a victim of blasts any time. Shame on them.
Will you avoid personal attacks and just focus on the topic? Present day media is "maadar pidar aazad" they are allowed to publish anything they want. Rehman Malik is not information minister who is giving dictation to the media.
Back to the topic, where is their statements regarding blasts and killing innocent people? I think they in fact approve/accept these blasts, forgetting that they can also be a victim of blasts any time. Shame on them.
I regularly watch Geo news and i have seen condemnations from ALL the main leaders of every party you have mentioned above. If you are ONLY talking about "STATEMENTS" then even JI's chief Munawar "GO Amrika GO" Hasan has issued statements condemning these attacks on innocent people.
A better question should be "Is someone really doing more than just issuing statements"???? Unfortunately ALL the parties have failed to do more than just "issuing statements". Even though it's government's responsibility to provide security, other party leaders could have done much more than just issuing statements.
We can criticise the government but we must not forget that any government in the world (not just Pakistan) would have struggled to ensure security in every part of the country from these barbarians. It's very unfair to say that all PPP ministers are sitting home doing NOTHING, there has been a lot of work done and people in Pakistan will tell you how much security has been improved in the last few months.
In the end, you are right about PML(N), IK, JI etc but they are as much to blame as PPP leaders. Zardari in particular has rarely issued any statement and spends 75% of the time overseas. Opposition parties can't do much more than "issuing statements" whereas the party in power CAN so it's government's responsibility to do a lot more than what they have done so far.
Will you avoid personal attacks and just focus on the topic? Present day media is "maadar pidar aazad" they are allowed to publish anything they want. Rehman Malik is not information minister who is giving dictation to the media.
Back to the topic, where is their statements regarding blasts and killing innocent people? I think they in fact approve/accept these blasts, forgetting that they can also be a victim of blasts any time. Shame on them.
The Moder Padur Azaad Media can Better understand , when they will Telcast Altaff's Statement after every such incidents.
Rehman Malik is Not Information Minister I am better aware of that , but why Media Catches only his statement , it means He performs like Spokes of Zardari Govt too.
"Go Amrika Go" , have already been launched by JI leaders MG have written , JI etc are pointing the very true cause of all this crape of "War on Terror".
They have launched Rallies in Pindi , Lahore , Karachi and Peshawar , have you ever hinted to that????
Plus like Ehsan and RS pointed , where are the PRESENT GOVT people saluting their soldiers.
Have ever Zardari dared to visit to Swaziristan or Swat valley to see Our Brave JAWANS?
Those are all basis one would say
"Be educated with your points first then come up with your alligations".