Why a Hindu should become a Muslim

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The most sensible mail on the whole thread.

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The Man is back sorry ppl for being out of touch for so long I am holidaying in goa for 12 days now so couldn't get any part in this BUT I'M BACK!!!

Afridi786,ssingh,narayan et all nice to see u my brothers

OK let us take a look at this thread with my favourite angle : contradictions in Islam...

Please answer me
In these questions three...

1>
(a)Muslims refuse to believe Vedas are divine -> yes
(b)Yet they claim Muhammad is vindicated in the hindu scriptures ->yes
(c)Then are the hindu scriptures divine or not ->?

2>Please do not claim that the quran has not been corrupted. It is common knowledge that the Pagan goddesses of Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah and Manah (daughters of the Pagan Moon God of arabia Al-Ilah) were mentioned in the Quran by Muhammad and later reversed saying that it was the devil who made him write that (So Islam has polytheism roots!!)
here again we have a **contradiction **u guys say Quran cant be corrupted but when allah was supposed to give it, it was corrupted in the first place itself?!! surprising isn't it?be it the devil or any one it **was **corrupted also if the devil can interevene in a religious(?) event like the revealing of your Holy book, it means the devil is atleast as powerful as God if not more(?!!)

Also u claim that the Quran cant be corrupted at all Now bear in mind that corruption need not be in the text of the Quran only it can also be in the actions inspired by the words in the Quran so the terrorist activities in the name of islam amount to the corruption of the Quran
So a contradiction here again if u support these acts of terror, u cant call Islam a religion of peace and if u dont u agree that the Quran has been corrupted
Also with the Arabic language being so contradictory the Quran will sooner or later be corrupted ( more on this in my later posts) GTG now as i am in a cyber cafe not at home see u guys

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^yeap...I like those three questions and also the rest. Polytheism???....so much for 'one god' thing ?.

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I want to make a film on Zakir Naik ! Nana Patekar will play the character !
What an idiot !
You say , he is doing dawah, hee hee. you dont compare religions when u do dawah

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I saw Zakir Naik's video on google. Wasted my 30 minutes. Couldn't bear it more than that.
He is a guy with agenda. 'and yes - Nana will be good for the role :)'

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question:Science tell us that whatever one eats, it has an effect on one’s behaviour. Why then, does Islam allow Muslims to eat non-vegetarian food, since eating of animals could make a person violent and ferocious?

1. Only eating of herbivorous animals allowed

I agree that, what a person eats has an effect on his behaviour. This is one of the reasons why Islam prohibits the eating of carnivorous animals like lion, tiger, leopard, etc. who are violent and ferocious. The consumption of the meat of such animals would probably make a person violent and ferocious. Islam only allows the eating of herbivorous animals like cow, goat, sheep, etc. that are peaceful and docile. We Muslims eat peaceful and docile animals because we are peace loving and non-violent people.

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/mcqnm8.htm

This is one of the weirdest explanation i have ever come across. “Eating herbivorous animals makes a man peacefull and eating carnivorous animal makes a man violent!”. This is what i got from Dr zakir naik’s website while going through his site. So much for science?..

please dont get offended. no offence meant as someone said that there is nothing wrong when the conversation is from both sides.

Besides, both Dr naik and nana patekar do look somewhat identical…hehe.

Brothers...
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[QUOTE}
(a)Muslims refuse to believe Vedas are divine → yes
(b)Yet they claim Muhammad is vindicated in the hindu scriptures ->yes
(c)Then are the hindu scriptures divine or not ->?

[/QUOTE]

Muslims don’t claim that the Prophet Muhammad :saw: is vindicated in Vedas. It is this recearcher who claims that. It is upto yours religious brethren to contemplate upon this research work. If the work is erroneous then thats another thing.

We don’t do if Hindu scriptures have any divine basis or not. These scriptures are certainly not referenced by Quran or Bible or Torah. It might be possible that Allah sent a prophet , one of the 1,24,000 prophets, among Hindus at some time, thosands of years ago. But we don’t have any basis to verify that.

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They are also included, you don't know much about islam do you? You have not have falsely been misguided to believe otherwise ?

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WONDERFULLY CRITIQUED AND THOROUGHLY A GREAT COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS AND EXCEPTIONALLY WELL WRITTEN,:) :) :) :)

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Oh really…

I find most of the time only muslims doing it…
Muslims dont claim?-Check these links below…

http://www.geocities.com/islamicmiracles/muhammad_pbuh_in_hinduscripture.htm
http://www.alislam.org/library/links/in_vedas.html
http://www.islamicvoice.com/february.99/comparative.htm
http://onlineislamicstore.com/b4841.html

want still more?

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These are just individual accounts of Muslims claiming it. I was reffering to the fact that followers of Islam in general have no knowledge of this and therefore do not make such claims. All praise to Allah :swt:, our faith is so strong that we don’t have to resort to claims and justifications such as these to convince ourselves. To us, Allah :saw: and his Prophet :saw: suffice.

If this research is meaningful then fine, if it isn’t then don’t pay attention to it.

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yeah…right.

you know what?..majority of hindus just read bhagavad geetha (also called as cream of vedas) and they very rarely venture to other scriptures. In one of other threads, I have clearly given an idea of number of scriptures that are there in our faith.

Besides,I can argue and pull out many differences between kalki and Muhammad, even if you consider avataar = prophet (which is not)

Moreover, i myself cannot validate those islamic websites. I dont care to do it also through those websites.

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i dont even know what the avatar is.

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^ i have clearly picked up one of the verses from hindu scriptures and explained. Just check it out.

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Now isnt this funny?!! Muslims conveniently say they can say if the vedas are not divine as they are not mentioned in the Quran, but they believe the Quran is the final word of God with their usual baseless theory "because the Quran says so" now remember we can confirm and corroborate any theory only if there is some other reference available apart from the claimant

In this case apart from the Quran(the claimant), no other book or religion or scriptures or lore or myth or legend remotely tries to establish this theory that quran is the final word of God apart from the quran itself (not even the Torah and other books claimed to be divine by the quran)

Secondly we conveniently forget the simple geographical implications of the fact that India is half a world away and Mohamad may not have even heard of the Vedas (the Torah, Injeel and Zubool were from the same geographic area ie arabia so easily referenced)

This is as good as saying "I am the most powerful man in the world" without proving it by lifting any weights,or hauling trains or anything of that sort but when questioned why, I will say " Because I just said so" and that what Muslims do all they have to say is "because the quran says so"

*Also if quran has no reference on Vedas, even the vedas have no reference on quran, so depending on my point of view, the quran is not divine... why? simple... because the vedas dont say so... Basically it's all in your perspective *

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Also wid regard to the Quran not being corrupted, sir I beg to differ now I do not remember the exact arabic words but these were in a talk given by Dr Zakir Naik:
1> Interest on lent money is Haram in islam but the word or phrase that shoes this in quran means both interest as well as very high rate of interest ; so a contradiction is evident
2>the word for a group in arabic means anything between a collection of anything between 15 to 100
3>In arabic when u address the majority the Minority has to comply as well for eg. in class of 90 boys and 10 girls if I say all boys stand up, all girls have too as well

This is so prone to manipulations... arabic as a language has no strngth at all how can a language have the same word mean both positive and superlative degree?(eg 1)

There is no way to quantify (as in eg 2) If I say prepare food for a group, it means anything to feed between 15 to 100 people(wow, how ambiguous and absurd is that)

There is no essence of Grammar as well so in eg 3 if there are 51 guys and 49 gals, we'll have to stand and count

And with all that quack Zakir Naik says Arabic is the richest language in the world. The guy has turned the definition on it's head a rich language will have a **unique word **for everything just **like sanskrit **does not arabic

With so many chances for manipulation in the original itself(quran in arabic), how long can anything stay incorruptible?

Muslims say that all other books are corrupted but remember all other books/scriptures are in excess of atleast 3000-8000 years old and quran is just 1400 yr old; only time will tell
(here again there can be a debate wheter or not these books were corrupted or not as ONLY quran says they were corrupted)

Once again I will say that all my muslim friends should not claim "Because the Quran says so.." as a valid justification for anything u are only keeping yourself in the dark

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My views on Da'wah

Now this is the greatest contradiction of all in Islam when anyone says anything that does not agree with Islam ( and I do not mean Insulting to Islam as in Taslima Nasreen's Novel), some Quazi or Imam or someone in the Muslim world has the authority **to declare a Fatwa on him
But Islam itself reserves the same liberty for itself in the form of Da'wah whcih u guys claim is a religious duty, now how many Shankaracharyas (hindu religious heads) have declared a Fatwa against Zakir Naik when he says Ram is not god?
whereas If i say that "mohammad is not the prophet of god" I may not be left alive tomorrow
That's why **Hinduism and not islam is the religion of peace consider this:

1> Throughout it's 10,000 yr History "Hindu" India has not Invaded any other country in the world (internal unrest was present but no aggression against other countries outside the subcontinent)
As opposed to that **Muslim **armies in 732 AD(less than 100 yrs after mohammads death) were beaten by the french army on the spanish border
imagine in less than 100 yrs muslims attacked and destroyed arabia(most of which was Jewish), the Sinai, egypt, libya,tunisia,Morocco, western Sahara, jumped the medeterranian at Gibraltar and destroyed Spain
Add to that the campaigns of Sicily, Italy(which led to the first crusader army to be raised in 1095 AD) , and the countless attacks on India as well in the next 1000 yrs or so...
Some religion of peace....

2>Islam does not accept even Nominal variance to what they believe case in point the 8 year iran - iraq (read shia-sunni) war JUST because shias added "and Ali is his companion" to your "There is no God But Allah..."

Not only that on this very forum itself there was a thread with heading "Are they Muslim?" referring to Bohra and Khoja muslim communities in Gujrat

As opposed to that **HINDUISM **has not only permitted but allowed various religious offshoots to thrive (read Jainism,Buddhism,Sikhism and Sufiism) more over their religious temples or places can be built freely anywhere in India (including your Mosques)
Lets see Saudi Arabia extend the same liberties to a hindu or Sikh

Lastly when the Zororastrians quit Iran from *Muslim Persecution **and reached Surat, Gujrat, India the **Hindu King accepted them **as refugees and not as slaves **without **asking for **Jizya *: your non muslim tax

Some religion of peace u have here...

Islam has only spread by the sword in the world and if u believe it was love and compassion all I can say is u are fooling yourself...

With all due respect, for all the bloodshed caused by Islam in the past 1400 years and the so called "Jihad" u guys abet and run in the name of religion in the present day

I think U mulims should *rivert * to Hinduism not hindus **converting **to Islam...

Your comment please

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a video “hinduism to Islam” for all…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLOSBpUdII&mode=related&search=Converts%20to%20Islam%20

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Actually hareem01, your video does not answer the questions asked by tommygun.

Muslim family converts to Hinduism :
http://news.indiainfo.com/2000/07/04/04conver.html

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(a)I believe Vedas have elements of divine origins.
(b)Yes
(c)Now do you believe your own scriptures enough to accept the prophecy of Muhammad[saw] ?