Re: Why a Hindu should become a Muslim
Look above. 
I do not challange kids and those who cannot comprehend broad concepts
I see you have no opinion since what you do is only passing few kiddish comments.
I remember you infiniti. I do. You should remember how I had made you write a reply to my post 
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I am eager to read her reply to this question.
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I have said multiple times before that I do not enter into discussions with jerks. Call it name calling, if you will. And please post where you made me write a reply to your post and what was the outcome of that decision.
About a month ago, one of your jerk buddies, deedawar, claimed to have won a debate against me and when I restarted that thread giving arguments against the claims he made about the debate, he was no where to be found.
I am not saying youâll do the same, but to me thereâs no point in going into a discussion with hate filled jerks and ignorants like you. To me it does not matter whether I win a discussion or not, all I want is an open and honest discussion which according to me you are incapable of doing.
I think that should explain why I pass only kiddish comments at your posts, coz they do not deserve anything more.
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What has Hinduism done to "Jains" and how Hindus have tried to uproot other faiths in History.
Sorry,this statement caught my attention and made me reply to your post.
Being a "Jain" I would like to know what has Hinduism done to me or other Jains or for uprooting other faiths. Please post your version and I'll let you know what I and my family and my other Jain friends feel.
I am very eager to read your opinion on this, so please do oblige.
Lahore 981, you can go to any extent to make yourself and others believe of what you think. And sadly that's pathetic.
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....history does mention some friction between jains and brahmins. I wont say friction, i would rather say competition, when jainism and buddhism were gaining popularity, some say it was adi shankara who revived hinduism at that time. hindus go to jain temples. I myself have been to shravana belagola, jains holiest place. Their underlying philosophy is similar to hinduism. if at all if any relgion has come to 'serious' friction is with buddhists, hindus and may be even jains.....we know the answer. just google. we will get answers even from neutral sites.
moreover, where is this topic heading?, isn't it about something else.
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moreover, where is this topic heading?, isn't it about something else.
Right, there has been competition between Jainism and Hinduism when Jainism was gaining popularity and it would have still existed if Jain following was as strong now as it was then but Lahori if this is what you call uprooting of other faiths then I wonder what would you call the destruction of hundereds of Jain and Hindu temples in India.
You are getting the drift, right Lahori?
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You are getting the drift, right?
yes buddy...it's not uprooting. Besides, my muslims friends, i also acknowledge islam had its own positive effects on india
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Sorry,this statement caught my attention and made me reply to your post.
Being a "Jain" I would like to know what has Hinduism done to me or other Jains or for uprooting other faiths. Please post your version and I'll let you know what I and my family and my other Jain friends feel.
** I am very eager to read your opinion on this, so please do oblige.**
Lahore 981, you can go to any extent to make yourself and others believe of what you think. And sadly that's pathetic.
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Good reply, infiniti.
Well actually, the same can be said with certainty with the centuries-old Shia-Sunni conflict, the way Ahmadiyas and Qadyanis are ostracized in Pakistan, and quite some ghettoisation within Islamic communities.
Well I think this topic is going to a tangent and needs to be brought back to its original discussion.
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Your sources please?where have we butchered, Jains, sikhs, buddhists, and Muslims( in greater detail below)
Yes, a muslim army attacks Spain within 100 yrs(732 AD) of muhammad's death and u dont expect them to retailiate. remember Muslims attacked Spain, Spain did not attack Makkah, right?
I hold them guilty as well
Contrary to popular pakistani belief, a significant part of the Indian army is Muslim and also we have 2 army regiments that recruit directly from Kashmiri Muslims "The Jammu and Kahsmir Rifles" and "The Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry"... The Police force in Kashmir is almost fully Muslim...
And these Muslim security forces are raping muslims, how convincing is that, moreover the world press has free access to J&K(unlike POK) but no one apart from the paki propaganda machine *claims *these incidents
Of course, some violations are bound to happen but they are freely reported by our press and the guilty are punished
The **same indian government **has **documented **the **rape of Kashmiri and Balgladeshi **damsels in 1948 and 1971 respectively,by MUSLIM Pakistani Army and Afghan Tribals, but that is nonsense isn't it?
Funny how u pakis and muslims in general can hold one claim by an authority to be genuine and another claim by the same authority is bull c**p
*Besides, have u heard of Panun Kashmir? Its an organisation of displaced kashmiri pandits by your muslim terrorists in their own home land who had to leave under threat of death... any way these pandits were established here even before Islam was preached, muslims came here as invaders, and forced hindus to leave... i am one of those hindus *
Have u read of "Direct action day"(Aug 16 1946) by your beloved Jinah? read reports by non-indian reporters from time and other magazines on the internet...then u will know who started the rioting... also the killing of refugees was triggered after the first train laden with bodies reached Amritsar from *Lahore *
The indian army gave protection to muslims as ordered by the government of India (this is incidentally the same Hindu army that "kills, rapes and loots" Kashmiris today) and Gandhi visited the muslim areas and asked hindus to be tolerant... did Jinnah do the same?did the pak army protect hindus in pak?
There are 200 million muslims in India(more than the whole paki population), how many Hindus are in pakistan?
So u need a crash course in history
More Bull Sh*t
U tell me how have hindus treated Jains? I myself believe in Mahavira as an enlightened soul and been to their temples.. have u even been to India? Jains like all people are free to practice their religion if u did u must have met more Muslims like yourself, and not Hindus...
Other religions? Boss we have given shelters to Zororastrians from Iran fleeing "MUSLIM" persecution and Buddhist Tibetiains from Chinese Persecution
All this despite the fact that "Hindu" India was almost 95% Hindu during Partition, we declared ourselves a Secular state rather than a Hindu one, Have u guys called yourself secular?
MOST IMPORTANTLY: We have national holidays on Bakr'id, Parsee new year, Mahavir Jayanti, etc
Do any Muslim countries have Holidays on Dussera *or *Janmashtami?
Dont u tell me rot about Hinduism without knowing anything...
All your references are nonsense pakistani and muslim propoganda
Why is it that only Muslims feel oppressed and victimised, all this when u have come in as invaders, killed people in their homelands and then expect self rule? eg Spain and Kashmir and the whole of Pakistan( remember was once Hindu ruled)
It's wrong
We see u guys in that light because :
--Muslims can't get along with Christians in Nigeria and Sudan
--They can't get along with Eastern Orthodox in Eastern Europe
--They can't get along with Hindus and Buddhists in Malaysia
--They can't get along with Hindus in the Sub-Continent
--They can't get along with Buddhists in Thailand and Burma
--They can't get along with Catholics in the Philippines
--They can not get along with majority Chinese in mainland China
--They can not get along with majority Russian (Muslims in Chechnya) in Russia
--They can't get along with Jews in the Middle East
--They can't get along with Coptic Christians in Egypt
--They can't get along with Christians in Indonesia
--They can't get along with Ba'hai in Iran
--Sunnis can't get along with Ahmadis on the Sub-Continent and want to
exterminate them.
In some of these cases, the atrocities are on both sides and there is plenty
of blame to share by both sides. Nevertheless, there is a pattern here that
is very disturbing.
*** Islam has more trouble coexisting with others than any other religion**
Remember that all the references of christians and Hindus mistreating Muslims come from Non-Muslim sources,
So we are men enough to admit that mistakes did happen and if we admit that, we automatically admit it is wrong
But the Butchery done by Muslims is limitless in the world... all the references of murders are neatly brushed under the carpet, so much so I did not find ANY history of the Muslims written by Muslims on the internet, though there are many Muslim historians who travelled to India wid your Muslim Brigands (kings they call themselves)
And when these historians are quoted, they are claimed to be false by u muslims, how convenient
Finally for all your pain in Kashmir, Sir the Indian army was deployed in Kashmir **after the insurgency started **before that law and order was in the hands of Kashmir Police which is Majorly Muslim
So cut the cr*p that Muslims are retaliating against rape, loot and massacre,ok
Lahore 981 my dear friend u only fool yourself, no one else
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I could write an essay response but its clear you donât know much and on you go as if you do. In first paragraph u wrote which I can easily debunk and correct you.----CANADA.
Itâs clear you need to read A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT ISLAM with a head of knowledge instead futile defencive posturing , so youâll realize what you donât undertand.
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Read my posts . Be warned , it takes an open mind not one that has been indoctrinated since birth to THROW STONES as you have both been subjected to and easily regurgitate. Stop sponging and think.
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LAHORE981, i HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU STUDY BUDDISM AND NATIVE INDIAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALITY , AS YOUR STUDYING OF ISLAM HAS NOT MADE YOU A BETTER HUMAN EITHER. I have and it has guided me on a path of introspection , self -relfection and exploration. But then my parents made sure I was not indoctrinated, I guess some a born lucky to have such parents who encourage to explore other paths, faiths and beliefs. I recommend this for all who think like you. Oh, did I tell you , I went bike riding the other day with a HINDU FELLOW. Us alone, together by the ocean. or do you find that intolerable. Ps he did not kill me or rape me, but he did hug me and give me a kiss on the cheek when we said our farewells.
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Lahore 981 no response to my post at the end of page 9... **
**Of course what can u say?!! nothing
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I was going through the history of aurangzeb. You muslims call this guy a âpeerâ , noble, pious and generous muslim just because he converted many hindus and you expect us also to convert. This is not a comment by a hindu or a sikh or anyone else. This is a comment of aurangzeb himself. This is what he said during his final days.
âI came alone and I go as a stranger. I do not know who I am, nor what I have been doing. I have sinned terribly, & I do not know what punishment awaits me.â - Aurangzeb
⢠with Aurangzebâs death, Mughal empire declines
http://www.colorado.edu/history/chester/ModIndhandout5.htm
http://bibleocean.com/OmniDefinition/Aurangzeb
http://www.loyno.edu/~nicoll/WorldCivFall/25threeislamicemp.htm
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Where is the other thread thats missing anyways.
I hope its not a repost, here is a documentary narrated by Ben kingsley. I watched this 2 years ago. It details about the History of Islam, with good and the bad.
It is been collated with citations with reputed Profs of reputed universities of this planet.
Click below, for an unbiased individual it gives a brief history about Islam.
Islam: Empire of Faith 1
Islam: Empire of Faith 2
Islam: Empire of Faith 3
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Ssingh, they are views I have heard and read about Aurangzeb, at this point I am thinking from a rational point of view I havent looked into the links above.
Auranzeb, is regarded high I did not know this till recent times. What i learnt was Aurangzeb was pious follower of islam.
But thas one of the advantages, the Muslim community know that he had written Holy Quran 3 times.
But this would completely negate the history,
He had oppressed his father to become a king, he increases the tax even for individuals who were not capable of paying there tax.
But what I feel is later on in his life he repented, and due to Humbleness towards God he commented the above statement.
He has his own advantages and disadvantages. What I am looking at is did he change himself the latter stage of his life.
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Can you tell me how can be I a better human being?
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What is this, your take on âBrokeback Mountainâ? Youâre free to seek guidance from your gay Hindu lover. Itâs yor life, and your loss. However, the majority of us here prefer Islam.
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So you say you have studied islam so tell me what does Islam say about oneness of God,Prophet Muhammad{saw},rights of women in Islam,Prohibitions of Khamr and pork,Salaat,Saum,zakaat,Hajj and also What does Islam say about the Other Scriptures of Christianity and Judaism?I suppose you have much more knowledge than me about Islam and other religions....
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basically a hindu should becme a muslim, because his life and wealth will have sanctity
and most of all he wont be burning in the hellfire forever
are there any hindu's on this site?
this is what i typed up for this hindu girl
read it inshaAllah
no excuse for major shirk and those who commit it
Natural Instinct Number 2 > Allah SWT gave is to prefer monotheism over polytheism (tawheed over shirk).. 1 over more than 1
common sense tells us that there is only one God > Allah, Allah says in the Quran that if we had more than one God then the universe would have been destroyed, (they would differ.. the gods) - a God always gets his will (i.e. everything happens by his will) if there were two gods and they both differed in something then one would have to back down, the one who would have to back down wouldnt then be a god because god dont back down from what he wants
(7:172) >" Allah asked bani adam (children of aadam) am i not your lord? and they answered yes you are..." that is to say that Allah questioned us all before we were born, this is known as Al-Mesaak (the great covenant), so we cannot say on the day of judgement that we did not know or were not aware, because we made that covenant with Allah SWT and so we have no excuses... (this is because its our natural instinct to believe that there is only one god)
Allah SWT will never forgive the crime of shirk
Example of Monotheism being our natural instinct, At age of 33 before he SAW became prophet, flood came and destroyed the ka'aba, the quraysh collected funds to rebuild the ka'aba, they did not collect money from the pimps and prostitutes, they said your money is haram. (quraish were pagans) they did not collect money of money lenders because they said that their money is impure money (because they charge intrest) and they did not collect money of people who do highway robberry, BUT which crime is worse, shirk or fornication/adultery, shirk or usury? shirk or theft?
If the pagans had the realisation that zina, theft and usury were forbidden .. then they must have had the same realisation for shirk. Paganism is the worst crime, their common-sense must have told them this if they knew that the above things were forbidden, this proves that there is no excuse for major shirk and those who commit it
Surah Roaum v.30 > everyone turn their face to the one and only true religion al-islam - ayah states that Allah has put in this natural instinct inside us to worship God alone, That is the natural way in which he created us
A man came to the prophet SAW and said ya Rasool Allah SAW where is my father, he died before you came, he never heard about you? the prophet SAW replied ' your father is in the hellfire. he's in hell because he worshipped idols' the man went away with his head hanging down, heart broken and shattered.. the prophet SAW called him back and said 'my father is also in hellfire' the prophets father abdullah died before the prophet SAW was born, even though the prophet SAW father died before the prophet was born Allah SWT did not let him off because he did shirk... there is no excuse for major shirk, its in our fitra to know that their is only one Illah(deity) who is worthy of worship. Allah took us before we were born and we testifyed to Allah SWT that he is our lord, so the hujjah has been established upon mankind.
Those who are still polytheists that is to say they grave-worship, idol-worship, dedicate worship to anything other than Allah, seek help/vows,from people or things other than Allah SWT, they take karzai, bush and musharraf as their legislator INSTEAD OF ALLAH and attribute partners with Allah SWT in his names, attributes, lordship and soveriegnity to them (taghouts who dont rule by allah's law), or invoke on deities other than Allah, seek help in anything or anyone living or dead other than Allah SWT or anything or anyone (whether it be a statue or a saint) in order to get closer to Allah, this is all major shirk and people who do this will all go to the hellfire and burn in it forever
Wassalams
Umm Hafsa