well theres a huge difference in staying away from sumthing and not getting to do sumthing.For me where i have been living ,lets say drinking,i dont drink and never have tasted beer because i never get to.Its not available to me and on the other hand thing will be different if its in my reach and still i dont drink.So i think those who stay aways from evils even when its going around them are better Muslims :halo:
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Re: whos a better muslim.
who r we do judje???
btw many muslims do drink wen they have alcohol in their reach 
Re: whos a better muslim.
I would not say if one is better than other because it really depends on the Iman one has. if one want to do unislamic acts, he/she can still find ways to do it...
However, I agree that it really is a litmus test between the strongness of Imaan among people if the environment is easily evil-oriented. I have seen 'baRay baRay maulvi' changing into big shot atheist because they were exposed to the evil works more easily.. however, those who maintained their Islam and Iman in such situations turned out to be much more dedicated towards their religion ... just because one is not introduced in such an environment will not guarantee that he is either weak or strong muslim... Only Allah knows what's in the hearts.
i am not judging , just presenting my views
but wat i ams aying is ,some Muslims do adopt evil stuff if they have access to it but those who stay firm prove to be better
and i dont believe that alcohol is the only test
and mullahs r perfect in faith
i have seen ppl doing things that they r not supposed to do in a society where u cant find alcohol so i dont think it can be the platform to judge who is better
the test is every where and in all part of our lives
i know a lady who is basically a scholar and every1 prolly thinks that shes better in faith than them but she got divorced and didnt complete the iddat and got married again
so u cant judge sum1 on the basis of who he is or not at all
and prolly we dont live in society where we cant find alcohol but i think we commit other sins that r equally bad
so i dont think availability of sumthing is a test or can be used as a test
Re: whos a better muslim.
u have to stay firm in every aspect of ur religion not just drinking or watever and no matter where u r
it doesnt make a difference
u have to stay firm in every aspect of ur religion not just drinking or watever and no matter where u r
it doesnt make a difference
i think she used drinking as one example....
is that correct kay?
Re: whos a better muslim.
Who is a better muslim? Only Allah can truly say. However, we as humans sometimes jump and make judgements. We can however strive toward improving ourselves toward the path we know to be sirat-al-mustaqeem, the best we can, with a conscious effort, and pray that Allah does judge us with mercy when the time comes.
Re: whos a better muslim.
someone who has all the means of sinning and fears Allah and keeps away is definitely better than someone who did not sin just because he never had the chance....
someone who has all the means of sinning and fears Allah and keeps away is definitely better than someone who did not sin just because he never had the chance....
how? may be other is as strong in iman as the first one.. just because he did not have a chance, does not mean his iman might be at a lower level or does it?
Re: whos a better muslim.
^ exactly wat im trying to say
I would not say if one is better than other because it really depends on the Iman one has. if one want to do unislamic acts, he/she can still find ways to do it...
However, I agree that it really is a litmus test between the strongness of Imaan among people if the environment is easily evil-oriented. I have seen 'baRay baRay maulvi' changing into big shot atheist because they were exposed to the evil works more easily.. however, those who maintained their Islam and Iman in such situations turned out to be much more dedicated towards their religion ... just because one is not introduced in such an environment will not guarantee that he is either weak or strong muslim... Only Allah knows what's in the hearts.
Who is a better muslim? Only Allah can truly say. However, we as humans sometimes jump and make judgements. We can however strive toward improving ourselves toward the path we know to be sirat-al-mustaqeem, the best we can, with a conscious effort, and pray that Allah does judge us with mercy when the time comes.
Ameen to that!!!
yeah
AQ we all know y exams r important .without going through one we wont be able to find out how good we are in anything.
and when a muslim is test by Allah swt and he stays firm , he proves himself to be good.jab u have a sin going on around u and still u make decision of being strong for not adopting it ,that is also a type of test. And the one who hasnt been tested yet ,how wud he know how strong he is in his iman.what if when it comes to him ,to looses his path
how? may be other is as strong in iman as the first one.. just because he did not have a chance, does not mean his iman might be at a lower level or does it?
AQ bhai sahee se parrho na main ne kia likha hai....
someone who has all the means of sinning and fears Allah and keeps away is definitely better than someone who did not sin just because he never had the chance....
yes it makes sense.
Re: whos a better muslim.
Sometimes you have to judge because God gave us the option to. You can't say, "Mr Bob killed 40 people but he isn't a bad guy." Just because we're not suppose to judge. I say you judge cause the moment you stop judging you're going to screw yourself over. A muslim that isn't drinking and one that is can be judged by you. One is obviously doing evil while the other isn't as long as you're not acting like God, but you can definetly say one is a better muslim then the other based on the incident occuring at that moment in time.
wow you are so full of it.
Iāve always said it: someone who can stay dedicated to theiir faith while living in the US/west is still better and stronger than someone who āfollowsā their faith whlie living in Pak/āislamicā country.
Re: whos a better muslim.
hahaha 
the usual stuff ā¦ have fun
p.s. insecurities about your belief 
that was goodā¦ seriously :biggthumb
the discussion is moved at a better place:
Re: whos a better muslim.
thats pathetic 
my first reply was on topic, but why should we open our mind a littleā¦ thats asking way too much
the thread did not need splitting as i told you in reply to your pm and i hope that youāll show the same standard of moderation when it comes to every other threadā¦ iāll make sure to remind you when people are discussing completely off topic material