Amir, I have a question. You have said several times that you are "Brit Born". But that doesn't necessarily mean that you have spent all your life in England. For example, I was born in Pak.......but I didn't grow up in Pakistan.
Now, my question is this: After being born in England...........which country did you mostly grow up in?
Yes, I was Born in London, Britain, and raised in Britain.
I have never lived in any other country.
All my education is from London. Went to nursery, school, high scool , college, university in London.
But yes i do admit inspite all this, my english skill on gup.shup is some what quetionale.
OK the honest truth.
Firstly yes, My english does have problems. I have allways been a mathemtical, sciencey, financial minded person, which is what i excel at.
And to be very frank, the standard of English taught in U.K also dire. I know this is very Ironic.
I do agree that pakistani counter-parts many a time have better english.
I tell you somthing in pakistan you guys are taught 'proper english', you guys learn from school how to write and speak formal and proper english, and you advance on the same in further courses.
In U.K, we learn none of this. For some reason we are kind of already expected to know from infant school, because we are 'english'. (although our speech from childhood involves more of an an alien english called slang, than proper english). Maybe in olden times was formal english the forepoint of every young and old citizens tongue, but todays time it is not.
In secondry school we get taught no formal or correct english writing/speaking skills, so we are left more or less with the 'slang'.
What we get focussed on in secondary school is poetry, story writing, creativity, imagination, shakespeare and crap.
That all it is! I swear. It so boring, I hated it. English ws my worse subject in secondary which I only got 2 B's for.
The work we do in class, coursewroks is mainly on discussing and evaluating story's and poetry and when the teacher marks/examines these they main focus is on the 'content; of the answer as compared to the 'grammar and volcabulry'.
SO basically we are never really taught to improve our english. Improvement comes yourself if english is either your fav subject, or if your future subjects or other activities are english orientated.
And my further studies were always the sciency, methodical, mathemtical types, which gave me less need and time to perfect my english.
So i do admit Pakistani people, English skills are better.
My father is pakistani educated, when he writes letter...boy does he write a letter...although me and my sis are more educated than him, he can still critizize our writing.
However i am aware of my english and communication, as my drawback, and am seriusly working to improve it. Which I will.
Excellent english and communication is always a virtue in any field. And although i do loosen myself on this gup.shup forum, in real-life my english is sufficient and does not form a hinderance to my sucess.
I know i have baffled on a bit on the above, but it was only for honesty and proper clarification purposes, if you would like to confirm my critisizms of english education in UK u cud ask another brit guppi or review the syllabuses yourself.
Why the hell do they teach us so much poetry and shakespear i just dont get it? I still dont get it.
Like i said nobody is absolutely perfect and im working on making my english better.
Now pls excuse me for some time its saturday I have to go out.