just saw it on BBC…and later they will say it was mishandeling…WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
AND ADMIN PLEASE DON"T MERGE THIS THREAD WE NEED TO HIGLIGHT WHAT"S GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY ITS OUR DUTY!
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they are putting out the fires burning all over Murree road.
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We are not stupid
Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
There were some people that called her a lunatic for coming up with the things she said about the threat on her life. Also its interesting to draw your conclusions as to whether some taliban killed her, or someone else.. I suggest you read this transcript:
In November, CNN.com invited Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto to reflect on the tumultuous events following her return to Pakistan this fall. In this commentary, the former prime minister reflected on a failed assassination attempt on her life at that time and vowed to keep pushing for the restoration of democracy. CNN.com also invited Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf to submit a piece giving his perspective. He has not yet responded.
KARACHI, Pakistan (CNN) -- I have long claimed that the rise of extremism and militancy in Pakistan could not happen without support from elements within the current administration. My return to my country poses a threat to the forces of extremism that have thrived under a dictatorship. They want to stop the restoration of democracy at any price. They have exploited a poor, desperate, and powerless people and allowed extremists the right environment in which to flourish.
Benazir Bhutto speaks Saturday at a news conference after a state of emergency was declared in Pakistan.
The ruling party is an artificial, political party created in the headquarters of the Inter-Services Intelligence (Pakistan's equivalent of the CIA) during the General Elections of 2002. Its core support comes from the political partners of the military dictator of the '80s, General Zia al-Haq, who empowered the most radical elements within the Afghan Mujahedeen who went on to morph into al-Qaeda, Taliban and the Pakistani militants of today.
This party has called for a banning of outdoor rallies, demonstrations and caravans. They would thus suspend all activity that demonstrates to the people of Pakistan and to the people of the world which parties enjoy mass support amongst the people.
On my return to Pakistan last month, throngs of people turned out to welcome me back home. The demand to ban grassroots political activity is a suspicious prelude to what could be an overt attempt to rig the upcoming elections. All people who believe in the process of democracy should reject this attempt to undermine public participation in the campaign and set the table for what I believe would simply be a fraudulent election.
It has now been more than two weeks since the horrific assassination attempt against me and the police have still not filed my complaint. They filed their own report without taking statements from eyewitnesses on the truck targeted for the terrorist attack which resulted in the death of more than 158 of my supporters and security guards.
Soon thereafter, I was asked by authorities not to travel in cars with tinted windows -- which protected me from identification by terrorists -- or travel with privately armed guards.
I began to feel the net was being tightened around me when police security outside my home in Karachi was reduced, even as I was told that other assassination plots were in the offing.
While the authorities speculated on whether a suicide bomber had been involved or two suicide bombers or perhaps a hand grenade or perhaps a car bomb, I reflected on my plight.
I decided not to be holed up in my home, a virtual prisoner. I went to my ancestral village of Larkana to pray at my father's grave. Everywhere, the people rallied around me in a frenzy of joy. I feel humbled by their love and trust.
Although it remains difficult to know for certain, I doubt that a suicide bomber was involved in the attack on me. I suspect, after talking to some of the injured, that the terrorists used a small child as a ploy to get to me. They were trying to hoist the child -- dressed in the colors of my party's flag -- onto my truck.
Failing to do so, they dropped the child near my vehicle. Some witnesses said the child had been rigged as a human bomb. I can't be sure. What followed was a massive explosion, killing scores immediately, tearing many bodies in half and sending blood, gore and flames up into the vehicle.
In less than a minute a second bomb -- reports later suggested a car bomb -- went off.
As I have reflected on the past two weeks, there are some things I wonder about:
• What was the car doing there?
• Why had the street lights been turned off?
• Was that intended to prevent my security from clearly seeing any approaching dangers?
• Is there any truth to the report that a high government official ordered the lights turned off "to prevent her getting so much television coverage"?
• Why would the leadership of the ruling party of Pakistan make a claim that my own party had committed the attack to gain sympathy?
• Why would the investigation be initially given to a police officer who was present when my husband was nearly tortured to death in 1999?
And, then, there is to me the most worrying: the adamant rejection by Islamabad of any assistance from the state-of-the art forensic teams of the FBI and Scotland Yard. There are precedents in Pakistan for such international assistance. Such teams were called in to investigate the mysterious and sudden death of Army Chief General Asif Nawaz and the Egyptian Embassy bombing in the '90s.
I had called in international experts when my brother Murtaza was killed in what I believed was a conspiracy to destabilize my government in 1996.
We can only wonder -- if there is nothing to hide -- why international investigators from the FBI and Scotland Yard are being prevented from assisting a Pakistan-led investigation?
The sham investigation of the October 19 massacre and the attempt by the ruling party to politically capitalize on this catastrophe are discomforting, but do not suggest any direct involvement by General Pervez Musharraf.
Until recently, he had made both public and private commitments to confidence building gestures that would move Pakistan forward in the transition to democracy. But at a time when he should be demonstrating to our country and the world his seriousness in allowing free, fair and transparent elections, he has declared martial law. This can only be seen as a step to entrench his dictatorship.
We must have elections under an independent caretaker government, and neutral administrative officials who have the confidence of all major political parties in the country. And these elections should be under the supervision of an autonomous and competent Election Commission.
It is time that Islamabad facilitates the operation of a rigorous election monitoring mechanism -- both domestic and international -- that can guarantee the sanctity of the ballot and allows election experts to conduct exit polls to insure that the counting reflects the voting.
It is time, in other words, for reconciliation to truly begin that will allow for the mobilization of the moderate majority of my nation and the marginalization of militants, fanatics and extremists.
But for that to happen, General Musharraf will need to revive the constitution by lifting martial law
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From Dawn:
Benazir Bhutto AssassinatedBenazir’s death: Musharraf convenes emergency meeting RAWALPINDI, Pakistan, Dec 27 (Reuters) – Formr prime minister Benazir Bhutto’s assassination Thursday in a suicide attack has left a void at the top of her Pakistan People's Party, and has also thrown into turmoil U.S. President George W. Bush's plan to bring stability to this key U.S. ally by reconciling her and President Pervez Musharraf. Shortly after Benazir’s death, President Pervez Musharraf convened an emergency meeting with his senior staff, where they were expected to discuss whether to postpone the election, an official at the Interior Ministry said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
As news of her death spread, supporters at the hospital in Rawalpindi smashed glass doors and stoned cars. Many chanted anti-Musharraf slogans.
Angry supporters also took to the streets in the northwestern city of Peshawar as well other areas. In Rawalpindi, the site of the attack, Bhutto's supporters burned election posters from the ruling party and attacked police, who fled from the scene.
In Karachi, shop owners quickly closed their businesses as supporters from Bhutto's party burned tires on the roads. Nawaz Sharif, another former premier and leader of a rival opposition party, speaking to the BBC, questioned whether to hold the elections. “I think perhaps none of us is inclined to think of the elections,” he said. “We would have to sit down and take a very serious look at the current situation together with the People's Party and see what we have to do in the coming days.” The attacker struck just minutes after Benazir Bhutto addressed an election rally of thousands of supporters. There were conflicting accounts over the sequence of events. Rehman Malik, Bhutto's security adviser, said she was shot in the neck and chest by the attacker, who then blew himself up. But Javed Iqbal Cheema, spokesman for the Interior Ministry, told state-run Pakistan Television that Bhutto died when a suicide bomber struck her vehicle. Bhutto was rushed to the hospital and taken into emergency surgery. “At 6:16 p.m. she expired,” said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of PPP who was at Rawalpindi General Hospital. (Posted @ 20:30 PST)
Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
Tragic.
I realize this is a developing story and details will emerge progressively but as expatriate Pakistani, I'm curious to hear who the residents of Pakistan suspect is behind this attack.
The obvious choice would be Islamist groups such as the Taliban and/or militant groups within Pakistan. People have also pointed fingers at President Musharraf for weak security at political rallies and emphasized the timing (weeks before the Jan. 8 elections) will help Musharraf since Bhutto was the most favorite presidential candidate and President Musharraf may use this as a catalyst to further peck away at the Constitution.
Benazir Bhutto was fully aware of the threat she faced daily given there was a massive attack upon her arrival back from exile. Therefore, this is not entirely out of the blue *so whom would you guys suspect as the perpetrator?*
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Times Online: Who killed Benazir Bhutto? The main suspects
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It reminds me so of the Kennedy assassination....we will not see any conclusion soon or later. I have my guess, but without proofs there will be no complains but blames.
Re: Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
India. The destabilization of Pakistan is very systematic. What are 12 Indian councilers doing in Afghanistan, all placed in cities across our border? Who is funding the BLA, the extremists in Pakistan, the lawyers movement? Who will gain most by a destabilised/ demoralised Pakistan?
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It reminds me so of the Kennedy assassination....we will not see any conclusion soon or later. I have my guess, but without proofs there will be no complains but blames.
The footage is there. Security agencies will identify the bomber and will dig the details.
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The footage is there. Security agencies will identify the bomber and will dig the details.
Good, who was behind the KHI blasts?! Taliban?!
Re: Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
India. The destabilization of Pakistan is very systematic. What are 12 Indian councilers doing in Afghanistan, all placed in cities across our border? Who is funding the BLA, the extremists in Pakistan, the lawyers movement? Who will gain most by a destabilised/ demoralised Pakistan?
Hope you are being sarcastic. It is not in India's interest to have a destabilised Pakistan. If Pakistan becomes a hotbed for the fundamentalists, then these idiots would turn their eyes to India once their agenda in Pakistan is complete. India wants a stable Pakistan. It is in India's interest to have stability in the region. India is developing rapidly and is attracting a lot of foreign investment. All that would come to nought if there is instability in the region..
Re: Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
Its very likely that someone from security forces with connection to extremist groups has something to do with it. BTW, all previous attacks on Mushrraf, Shakut Aziz and other...it turned out that people from inside the security services were involved...directly or indirectly.
Al-Qaeda claims Bhutto’s death
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1710322437
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Chickens thence come home to roost. Evil chickens.
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We almost have 1 million men army. Why cant we use it to kill or capture these terrorist ba$stards. When are we going to understand that they want to turned Pakistan into Iraq? I hope Mushrraf and his clowns wake and do something or we can say good bye to Pakistan. :(
Re: Who Killed Benazir Bhutto?
Three months ago I highly resented the cover story on Newsweek: Pakistan, the most dangerous country in Pakistan. I resented in on an emotional level but my mind could not refuse what the atricl allued to. The very first paragarph ( dated 10/29) goes:
"Benazir Bhutto was worried she would not survive the day. It was, for her, to be a moment of joyous return after eight years of exile, but also an hour of great peril. Just before she left Dubai for Pakistan on Thursday, Oct. 18, Bhutto directed that a letter be hand-delivered to Pervez Musharraf, the embattled Pakistani autocrat with whom she had negotiated a tenuous political alliance. If anything happens to me, please investigate the following individuals in your government, she wrote, according to an account given to NEWSWEEK by her husband, Asif Ali Zardari. Bhutto, Pakistan’s former prime minister, then proceeded to name several senior security officials she considered to be enemies, Zardari said. Principal among those she identified, according to another supporter who works for her Pakistan People’s Party, was Ejaz Shah, the head of Pakistan’s shadowy Intelligence Bureau, which runs domestic surveillance in somewhat the way M.I.5 does in Britain. Shah, a longtime associate of Musharraf’s, is believed by Bhutto supporters to have Islamist sympathies. And Bhutto had boldly challenged Pakistan’s Muslim extremists, declaring before her arrival that “the terrorists are trying to take over my country, and we have to stop them.”
Bhutto was certainly prescient about the threat. On Thursday, as her motorcade inched along a parade route guarded by roughly 20,000 Pakistani security forces, one or more suicide bombers set off twin explosions that killed at least 134 bystanders and police, and injured 450 others. The bombs narrowly missed Bhutto, who had ducked into her armored truck minutes before. Shaken but uninjured, she was rushed to safety. Musharraf’s government quickly fingered Baitullah Mehsud, a longtime Taliban supporter and director of some of the most lethal training facilities for suicide bombers in the far-off mountains of Waziristan. Mehsud had reportedly threatened Bhutto. She and her husband, however, pointed much closer to home. “We do not buy that it was Mehsud,” Zardari told NEWSWEEK. There was no immediate evidence that Shah was connected to the bombing. At a news conference the next day, though, Bhutto noted that the streetlights had mysteriously been turned off on her parade route and said: “I am not accusing the government. I am accusing people, certain individuals who abuse their positions. Who abuse their powers.”
the entire article:
Re: Al-Qaeda claims Bhutto's death
I dont want to die so i will do whqtever taliban says whatever they says that will be my islam.mere watan k tukre mut karo hum tumhari baat manein gey. Mut maro mere watan mut bahao khoon is ka
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Propaganda machine working quite quick and effective. What BS!
Some days ago a terrorist "escaped" from PA/ISI hands.
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An Italian news agency says that they received a call from Al-Qaeda saying they did it. Don’t know how reliable this is, but we’ll see more to come maybe.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1710322437