Who is responsible for current petrol crisis

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Chittraul time. Yayyy. :)

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Full taym

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All the taym. :k:

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PIA is a small but important part of the problem. Total owed to PSO is more tahn 250 billion rupees, of which most is owed by power distribution firms.

Its important to note that the problem arose because of furnace oil defaults by PSO, which resulted in sellers refusing to sell them petrol as well.

Biggest responsibility for this administrative failure lies with Nawaz Sharif, as PSO, alongwith several other govt entities, have been operating under acting heads for the past year and a half. An acting head is the least bit concerned about long term decisions or impacts. He only cares about his few days at the helm.

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It is really sad that Pakistan is run by not-so-intelligent people, and then we say that why Pakistan is going down the drain?

Actually, I saw this (Off the Record … dated 20 the January) program today, and it really amazed me and also made me sad on the ignorance of the participants.

In the video we have many eminent personalities (Kashif Abbasi, Khurram Dastagir, Qamar Zaman kaira, Asad Umar, etc). Almost all are showing their lack of understanding or grasping the reality on ground.

Without commenting on blunder of ‘Thug Nawaz’ government, blunder that is obvious from the ability of the ministers, most worrying thing is ministers’ ability to understand, grasp and explain situations.

For instance, it is possible that Khurram Dastageer is lying or telling truth, but he did claim on TV program that government is supplying enough fuel to take care of daily fuel requirement.Unfortunately, he could not explain that if supply is increased, why people are still finding shortage?

Obviously, from their questions, Kashif, Kaira and Asad Umar were unwilling to buy what Khuram Dastagir was claiming, considering his claim as absurd. According to them, if government has increased the supply equal to requirement, why people are making queues and feeling pinch of shortage. Unfortunately, Khurram Dastagir facing such questions could not convince what he was claiming.

To me, regardless of Khurram Dastagir was lying or telling truth, he should have had ability to convince Kashif, Kaira and Asad Umar that what he is saying is true (I believe, most likely, Dastagir was saying true that government has increased supply equal to requirement). Most surprising was that even though Dastagir could not give convincing answer,Kaira, kashif and Umar could not grasp that it is possible that Khurram Dastagir was telling truth.

Well … let me explain how Khuram Dastagir could have given convincing answer (assuming that he was telling truth). He should have made clear that:

No excuse for fuel shortage (as government should have acted earlier) … still, his (Khurram Dastagir) claim that normal demand in country was 12000 ton of fuel daily that abruptly increased by 30 percent due to decrease in fuel price (and close down of LNG), increasing demand to 15600 tons daily, thus the shortage. Facing situation, government has increased the supply to 15600 ton of fuel daily (according to Khurram Dastagir claim), hence fuel shortage is not there, and queue would go within days.

Question arises that, if what Khurram Dastageer is telling truth than why still people are finding shortage?

Answer is that: There is steady state daily demand of fuel. This (amount of fuel) is what people not only buy daily but spend daily too. If people would buy more than daily demand than their fuel tank would not be able to take extra fuel. Over this steady state demand there are fuel reserves with people (in their car tank).

For instance:
Amjad fills his car with 30 liters of fuel but uses only 5 liters daily. That means, Amjad fill his tank every 6 days.

Ashraf fills his car with 40 liters of fuel but uses only 10 liters daily. That means, Ashraf fill his tank every 4 days.

And so on … that means, under steady state condition, cars would be holding two sorts of fuels in tank, one that car uses daily and other is reserve fuel in the car tank.

Now as demand increased and fuel became short,people in 4 to 6 days spent all their reserve fuel. It means when supply increased (to 15600 tons) people’s car had no reserve. These cars would be short of fuel until reserve level is reached and then only collectively they would start taking steady state level of fuel (daily required fuel).

Worse is when petrol station is supplying less fuel (as claimed by Kaira in program), then people would keep moving from pumps to pumps, spending more fuel to get fuel (and reach their reserve or comfort level) and thus it would create artificial demand (increased demand over 15600 ton, what government thinks).

And that means, even when government has increased the supply, people are still finding shortage of fuel, because they collectively want to go back to their reserve fuel situation in their car (what they had before demand increased).

That means (also advice to the government), if demand has really increased by 30 percent (as claimed) and now it is 15600 ton,then, after long shortage of fuel, to stablise and bring steady state situation back (where demand get pegged to 15600 tons daily), government do not need to increase supply to 15600 ton, but have to increase initial supply to at least 30000 tons to 50000 tons, so that reserve state of fuel in car of consumers (as well as pumps) get back to steady state, and than only steady state buying would come back. Else, even if government increases the supply to 15600 tons (equal to required demand), then fuel shortage would never end. … On the other hand, if daily demand is still 12000 tons and supply is increased to 15600 tons, than eventually steady state condition would reach, but it would takes several weeks.

I think government has to understand this two requirements of fuel, one amount related to daily requirement of fuel and other amount that stays in tank and petrol station, something it seems, Khurram Dastageer and government is not able to comprehend, and people in opposition were not able to point out, what they should.

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“reserve fuel storage” in cars?? I thought that only bikes had “reserve” switch :konfused:

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only thing remaining to say from these dumb ministers is that

"jee petrol ita sasta ho gaya, logoon nai coke/pepsi ki jaga wo pena shuru ker deya thats why shortage ho gaee"

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ہم نے اس کو لکھا تھا کچھ تھوڑی سی تو شرم کرو
اس نے لکھ کر بھیجا ہے وقت ملا تو سوچیں گے

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This so called 'experienced and economy friendly' team is basically a financial mafia in the country. If their 'supporters' don't belong to the group that directly or indirectly benefits from organised corruption and bribes and favour based quick way out system that is so prevalent in Punjab, most of their supporters are fooled into thinking that just because these bloody industrialists know how to run their business empires and turn them into gold mines (by stealing truck load of money and tax evasion) somehow the mafia will be able to replicate the same prosperity in the country. Yes, just like they did in the 90s. We have a lame duck and dumb and deaf Prime Minster whose brother and brother in law run the country like de facto Prime Ministers yet no one can dare question their incompetency.

I don't there is one single federal ministry where these rotten oligarchs haven't planted their industrialist family member or friend. These pests have destroyed bureaucracy because no credible and experienced professional administrators and managers are allowed to take position, and run things with fear of accountability and fierce scrutiny. If you are friends with the King and he's your ultimate protector, who cares what his subjects say or think. Moral of the story, Petroleum Minister is a very close friend of Nawaz Sharif, the reason why he was given this ministry and the reason why he won't be reprimanded for bringing the country on the brink of standstill. Too bad dharnas are over otherwise these rats would've blamed designer clothes wearing rich anarchists for sucking up all the oil in the in the country.