Who is more ' Pakistani ' in nature?

We get to hear about our nation a lot. That our nation does not have civic sense, we dont have high morals, majority of our nation is morally corrupt etc etc.

I have heard this phrase a lot ’ A nation gets a leader it deserves ’

Now lets analyze our three party leaders.

Zardari: Widely known or percieved as extremely corrupt, shrewd, on top of his game every time! But I dont believer or never believe our nation is as corrupt as Zardari is percieved to be.

Nawaz Sharif: Not a really corrupt person but is percieved to be .. Loves his food, has ambitions, is a business man. Can bend some rules to suit his requirements.. lies whenever needed… Waqt per sher, waqt per kuch aur… He is closer to what a common pakistani does in real life.

Imran Khan: An Idealist person. Has idealistic views about anything pakistan. Not perceived to be corrupt and hence some pakistanis love to hear him but cannot see him in power. Brutally honest at times. But he is a rare species in Pakistan.

Discuss.

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Nawaz Sharif: Not a really corrupt person but is percieved to be .. Loves his food, has ambitions, is a business man. Can bend some rules to suit his requirements.. lies whenever needed... Waqt per sher, waqt per kuch aur... He is closer to what a common pakistani does in real life.
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Compared to zardari, it is debatable but haven't you seen ittefaq boundaries and how his business expended after coming into power?

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Imran Khan: An Idealist person. Has idealistic views about anything pakistan. Not perceived to be corrupt and hence some pakistanis love to hear him but cannot see him in power. Brutally honest at times. But he is a rare species in Pakistan.
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Sort of like a poet but with english influence (likes to quote englishers). He has the star power from running the cricket team, but I don't think he is as honest on issues as it needs to be, as honest solutions are hard solutions. Railing against drone strikes is easy compared to saying that you are against imprisonment of innocent people on blasphemy charges like salman taseer or actually come out and say that blasphemy laws are against freedom of speech and in essence, they are against the nature of the prophet himself who never murdered people who badmouthed him be it non-muslims or even muslims.

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Zardari is not a politician, and certainly not a leader. He is a dealmaker and that's what he is doing. So the less said about him, the better.

Nawaz Sharif is a hands-down winner against Zardari when it comes to Pakistaniat. He has certain skeltons to hide in his cupboard, but he is certainly the best bet if the comparison is between these two.

Imran has never been in power and that's a huge plus that goes his way. He is also boosted by his image as a clean philanthropist who now wants to widen his field of work. He is an idealist but then every great thing has been a product of idealism. A 9-to-5 working mentality cannot usher in a revolution. Dreams never make sense, but did not Pakistan start as a dream? Has Martin Luther King had no dream? Imran is a hope and given the prevailing circumstances, we cannot survive without a hope and a dream.

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Blasphemy Law vs Drone attacks? How many people have actually died as a result of the blasphemy law in a court case? ZERO... Yeah, big deal Salman Taseer died, though tragic as it may sound he was a corrupt politician and to start rallying support for a politician belonging to the ruling corrupt PPP would be political suicide for Imran Khan.

What Imran lacks is the ability to recruit honest and sincere leaders like himself in his party, and that is the only flaw I can find in him.

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I agree to some extent spock but he is surely trying to build a good team, recent two additions like Azeem Ibrahim “One of World’s top 100 thinkers”
BIOGRAPHY- Azeem Ibrahim

And

Pakistani’s best known CEO Asad Umar who has recently joined.

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There is a no mart out there to shop for honest and sincere leaders. And there is an accute shortage of nobel men around the world. There is only one Imran, there may be some even better, but Imran is just one.

Imran's job is to provide leadership and give everyone a reason to work and a path to walk. A leader's job is to set the direction and rule of the games. He may not have a perfect team, but if he has a vision, he is good to go.

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^ This is what I meant in OP. That NS is closer to what a normal pakistani is.

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Pakistan is not one country with unified perceptions and values. There is no such thing as typical or normal Pakistani. Thus, people in Pakistan have different perceptions regarding politicians you mentioned, and they have their own reasons. For instance:

1: For some, all 3 you mentioned above are Crook, thug, selfish, power-hungry, and dishonest to core ... and none of them have any interest with wellbeing of Pakistan above their own wellbeing *

2: For some, Zardari is the best amongst all 3 and also is best for the country. For these people Zardari represents Bhutto and is also victimised by authorities just like Bhutto. According to these people, Zardari spent years in jail for sin (corruption) he was not guilty of as after years it did not got proven. To them, Zardari similarity of victimisation is just like victimisation of Bhutto who got hanged for sin Bhutto’s supporters believe Bhutto was innocent.

3: For some, Nawaz is the best amongst all 3, especially for people in Punjab, as to many of them Nawaz is from Punjab who shows his prejudice towards Punjab openly. For many, Nawaz is good regardless of all evil and corruption in him, because he talks about and uses Islam in his politics (make people fool in the name of Islam like his spiritual father), what they like.

4: For some, Imran is the best as they prefer to overlook all his obvious malicious and treacherous pasts. These people believe and defend what Imran says blindly. They try to defend or ignore everything if anyone points to Imran’s obvious malicious and treacherous pasts. Love of Imran for some is also result of their own disillusion with politicians they used to love before.*

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Some people may not like Imran for other reasons but he is not (financially) corrupt or there are atleast no financial scandals about him. He has no investments abroad that we know of

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The reason why Pakistan has Zardari as a reason is simply because he refelcts how corrupt Pakistani society can be or is even. If you try to buy a service in Pakistan or something from a shop they try to get away with charging as much as possible.

You ask who is more Pakistani yet you forget Pakistan is a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural nation with some quite different values. People out of Northern Punjab cannot relate to Nawaz SHarif. It is very easy to forget that idea of Pakistaniat that people have in Punjab is not the same in the other provinces.

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There is a difference between being ambitious (Imran Khan) and being greedy & power-hungry (Zardari, Sharifs, Chaudharies etc.)

One may accuse Imran of all sorts of things ((being arrogant and full of himself in his heyday, being prejudiced against certain players (I see it more as professional rivalry or an ego clash just like both Wasim and Waqar had problems with each other, being a pakhtoon nationalist (whatever that means!), his past moral weaknesses etc.)) but I don't buy the notion that IK doesn't care about the well-being of ordinary Pakistanis. Why would he then take such great pains to set up Pakistan's first cancer hospital, Namal University etc. His social achievements are there for everyone to see.

Coming from a privileged background did IK really need to do that?

What have our feudal crooks ever given back to the ordinary people?*

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Well said :clap: