Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan?

Another Afghan Taliban leader killed in Peshawar today. Who is killing them in Pakistan, ISI or Afghan Intelligence? I think around 6 of them have been killed in recent months.

Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan? | January 24-30, 2013

**After the killing of a number of their key leaders especially in Balochistan, Afghan Taliban do not feel safe in Pakistan any more, security analysts say.
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**Afghan Taliban commander Mullah Salim was reportedly injured in an attack by his own security guards in Quetta city, and died later on January 6. He was the shadow governor of the Mizan district of Afghanistan’s Zabul province. Mullah Noorullah Hotak, reportedly the Taliban’s shadow governor for Zabul province and a member of the Taliban Shura, was shot dead in the Naway Adda area of Quetta on December 26. Another veteran Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Malik was shot dead by unidentified gunmen on December 29. Senior Haqqani Network leader Dr Nasiruddin Haqqani was shot dead near Islamabad on November 10.
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Nobody has taken responsibility for the killings so far. Officially, the Taliban have denied the spate killings is connected.

Quetta is the capital of Balochistan province and about 80 kilometers from the Afghanistan border. US and Afghan officials have long accused Pakistan of supporting Afghan militants and giving them sanctuary in Quetta. Islamabad has always denied their presence. “Reports of presence of Afghan Taliban in Quetta are baseless,” Balochistan Home Minister Mir Sarfaraz Bugti told reporters in Quetta.
“There are no signs of Afghan Taliban in the province,” he said, adding he had no information about the recent killings of Taliban leaders.“A number of other low-ranking Afghan Taliban militants have also been killed in the Pashtun districts of Balochistan in recent months,” said a leader of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam’s Nazaryati faction (JUI-N), a religious party that openly supports the Afghan Taliban and their battle in Afghanistan.

**Rahmatullah Nabeel, the chief of Afghanistan’s premier intelligence agency National Directorate of Security (NDS), told Afghan reporters that nearly 12 Afghan Taliban commanders had been killed in Quetta, and all of them had been speaking to the Afghan president’s negotiators, either directly, or through provincial governors or tribal elders.
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**Experts who monitor the activities of Afghan Taliban say there are several explanations. “One possibility – suggested by the Afghan Taliban – is that the Afghan intelligence service is responsible,” said Michael Kugelman, senior program associate at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, a Washington-based think tank.
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**Talking to the Kabul-based Khaama Press, Afghan Taliban leaders said they believed Gen Abdul Razaq, the security chief of Kandahar province, was behind the cross-border assassination campaign. They said they had arrested six suspects, who had confessed during interrogation that they were part of a special cell created by Gen Razaq.
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**Some observers and Afghan officials blame these killings on Pakistani officials, saying they feared losing influence over the commanders who had become part of peace talks. “A second possibility is that the Pakistani intelligence agency, unhappy about the Afghan Taliban pursuing peace, is behind the killings,” said Kugelman. Blaming the ISI for the killings, Daoud Jalali, a former official at the Afghanistan’s Ministry of Interior, told Voice of America that Pakistani intelligence agencies would do whatever it took to stop Taliban commanders from making contacts with Afghan officials.
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Sources close to the Afghan Taliban say internal rivalries and revenge attacks are also a major reason behind the recent series of killings. “Hardline factions of the Afghan Taliban, strongly opposed to peace, could be culprits,” said Kugelman. “The fourth possibility is some combination of the second and third possibilities.”

Afghan Taliban who support the peace process complain they have nothing to show to their wary partners from their engagement with Kabul and Washington, say Afghan journalists.

A report published in Hasht-e-Subh newspaper in October said there had been a split in the Afghan Taliban on the issue of peace talks, and a new group *Mahaz Fedai Tahrik Islami Afghanistan, *or the Suicidal Front of the Islamic Movement of Afghanistan, was formed in June after a Taliban liaison office opened in Doha for negotiations with the US and the Afghan government. The group is very close to Al Qaeda, the report said.

**Dr Asim Yousafzai, another Washington-based Afghan expert, says there will be heightened tensions and increased bloodshed throughout 2014. “The killings of Afghan Taliban leaders in Pakistan are a precursor and a window into what we will observe in the coming months,” said Yousafzai, who recently wrote a book titled Afghanistan: From Cold War to Gold War. “Each side is trying to score as many blows as possible, and the strongest player will emerge victorious.”
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Re: Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan?

I think proxy war is ON between Pakistan and Afghanistan now. Who will win?

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Ex. Afghan Taliban minister mulvi Abdul Raqeeb gundown in Peshawar, , Raqeeb recently raised his voice of peace talk in Afghanistan .

Re: Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan?

It could be CIA behind the killings too, they let Karzai talk with Taliban and keep monitoring all negotiations/communications and then track them down in Pakistan... to show Pakistan "who is your daddy".

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The US.

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What Afghan Taliban are doing in Peshawar or in Pakistan? Are they on proper visiting documents or as usual these people think that Pakistan in ke baap ki jaagir hay. Haami mardood Zia-ul-Haq aor us ke hawari jo cancer is mulk ko degaiay, siwaaiay major operation/ radiations in the form nuclear device can cure this nonsense.

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Do you have any proof or just speculating? If yes then link it otherwise don't put your hand in the hell fire.

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Answer to your question is in ".. could be..." :)

I have no reason to trust US in this region. They have blamed Pakistan for their own sh!t in the region, they have pushed Pakistan for years to bomb Waziristan to eliminate Taliban from there. But Pakistan did not oblige.

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Weren't Americans right? You guys trusted 'maut ke saudagar' during peace talks and they back stabbed by intensifying merciless killings. Are satisfied now?

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^ They may be right about Taliban in Waziristan, they may be right about Taliban in many places in Pakistan, but I will still not trust about US motives wanting to kill Taliban in Pakistan. If I have to pick between US and Pakistan army on issues about Pakistan and its security I will trust Pakistan army more than anyone.

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^^^ Do you trust your own army?

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More than US, yes.

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Former Afghan Taliban minister shot dead in Peshawar - DAWN.COM

Former Afghan Taliban minister shot dead in Peshawar

PESHAWAR: A former minister of the Afghan Taliban who was in favour of peace talks with the Kabul government was gunned down in Pakistan’s northwest city of Peshawar on Monday, Afghan Taliban sources said.

“Armed assailants riding on a motorbike shot Mullah Abdul Raqeeb, a former minister for refugees during the Taliban regime, killing him on the spot,” a member of the Afghan Taliban in Pakistan told AFP.

Speaking from Afghanistan, another Taliban member said Raqeeb was part of a group in Peshawar “which is in favour of making some connection with the Afghan government over possible peace talks.”

Raqeeb was coming out of a religious seminary where he had been teaching when he was attacked.

Senior Peshawar police officer Muhammad Faisal confirmed the murder.

A Taliban office in Qatar that opened last June was meant to lead to peace talks, but instead it enraged Afghan President Hamid Karzai after it was styled as an embassy for a government-in-exile.

Public efforts at reconciliation have since been frozen.

In a written statement, another former Afghan minister Aga Jan Motasim said leaders and jihadi commanders of the Afghan Taliban were being targeted in the Pakistani cities of Quetta and Peshawar.

“Mullah Abdul Raqeeb was working for a peaceful Afghanistan,” said the statement.

He praised Raqeeb, terming him a learned scholar, politician, social worker and “guardian of thousands of orphans.”

On Thursday, the Afghan government released scores of alleged Taliban fighters from Bagram prison, leading to criticism from the United States.

Some analysts say the releases could help kickstart the moribund peace talks with the Taliban, who were ousted from power in 2001.

Pakistan is seen as crucial to peace in neighbouring Afghanistan as it was a key backer of the hardline 1996-2001 Taliban regime in Kabul.

Monday’s killing in Peshawar came weeks after an influential cleric close to the one-eyed spiritual leader of the Afghan Taliban was killed in Quetta.

Senior leaders of the Afghan Taliban have been repeatedly targeted and killed in Quetta and Peshawar but nobody has ever claimed responsibility.

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Taliban Civil War Looms as Peacemaker is Shot - The Daily Beast

**A Taliban minister tries to negotiate with the Afghan government, and ends up dead—maybe at the hands of his fellow militants.
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**Taliban minister Mulvi Abdul Raqib was assassinated in Peshawar, Pakistan on Monday. And the most likely suspects are other, hardline members of the Taliban.
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**No one has yet claimed responsibility for Raqib’s killing. But according to both Taliban and Afghan government sources, the assassination was in retaliation for Raqib’s attempts to make peace with the government of Afghan president Hamid Karzai. That’s something many Taliban factions vehemently oppose—perhaps with lethal force. In other words, Raqib’s slaying could signal an internal war within the Taliban, with those supporting a negotiated end to the 13-year conflict in Afghanistan on one side, and the Taliban’s most hardcore elements on the other.
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The American, Afghan, and Pakistani governments are all making efforts to find a way to come to some sort of political settlement with the Taliban and its allies before U.S. troops begin leaving Afghanistan later this year. If the Taliban is indeed at the early stages of some sort of civil war, that wouldn’t just complicate the peace process. It could render it useless.

**Before he was killed, Raqib was working with Aga Jan Mohtism, a former high-ranking Taliban minister, who has been engaged in informal talks with the Afghan government’s peace council in Dubai. Official negotiations are expected to begin soon. Mohtism has been involved in previous peace talks and was himself shot in Pakistan in 2010 in an unclaimed attack.
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Though Mohtism claims to represent the Afghan Taliban, his relationship to the Taliban’s official leadership is unclear. In a statement to the Associated Press, Mohtism said, “I can say that generally [Taliban leader] Mullah Omar has never disowned us. I am sure we have his support,” while also acknowledging that Omar had not expressed any public support for the peace talks or for Mohtism’s efforts.

A Taliban sub-commander from Northern Afghanistan who goes by the name Qari Nusrat spoke with The Daily Beast about Raqib’s killing and the question of Mullah Omar’s possible involvement.

**“The killing of Mulvi Abdul Raqib is a big blow for the Taliban,” Nusrat said. “We will ask Quetta Shura to make clear its position” Nusrat said referring to the Taliban’s high leadership council headed by Omar. If it is confirmed that Raqib was killed by a Taliban hardliner acting under orders from the Quetta Shura, “it would be disaster for Taliban unity” Nusrat said.
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He also expressed a wish that “there was a way to get in touch with Taliban supreme leader Mullah Omar” directly rather than speaking with Quetta Shura representatives.

**An Afghan intelligence officer, who works undercover and asked not to be named, suggested that the ISI, Pakistan‘s intelligence service, might have had a role in Raqib’s killing. “Hardliner Afghan Taliban and ISI have zero tolerance for those Taliban raising their voice for peace in Afghanistan,” the intelligence officer said.
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**He believes that “Pakistan is playing the worst game with future of Afghanistan and the assassination of Raqib was jointly decided by the ISI and hardliner Taliban.” U.S. and Afghan officials have long accused the ISI of supporting both al Qaeda and the Taliban.
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**Multiple Taliban members and one government official spoke with The Daily Beast about a rift in the Taliban between Afghan and Pakistani factions; they describe Afghan groups as favoring peace talks while the hardcore elements in Pakistan refuse to negotiate.
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According to multiple sources, the reason this rift hasn’t grown into an open fight—yet—is the uncertainty about the official Taliban position towards the peace talks. The Taliban has many different factions, some with competing aims and incompatible visions of the future, spread out over both Afghanistan and Pakistan. The difficulty of communicating with the isolated central leadership, which is hiding out in Pakistan, allows schisms to emerge between different Taliban groups without a clear authority to quickly arbitrate between them.

On the question of the peace talks, the Taliban’s official position remains unclear even to some members of the organization.

**“The absence of Mullah Omar is a big problem” said a high-ranking Taliban official, who spoke with The Daily Beast while attending the peace talks in Dubai. “A group of people hijacked the movement by using his name, while they by themselves really don’t even know where Mullah Omar is.”
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The Taliban official said that the group claiming to speak for Omar, “tried to isolate famous and influential clerics and commanders and separate them from the mainstream” but this only alienated them, and they “took shelter in Mohtism’s camp.”

The Afghan government has fully endorsed peace talks with the Taliban and called them a pre-condition for any future resolution and for signing a security agreement with the United States. Kabul’s support for the talks was clear in the treatment of Raqib, whose body was flown back to his hometown in Afghanistan in official state helicopters.** Hundreds turned out at Raqib’s burial on Tuesday including both government officials and Taliban members and a statement was issued by the president’s spokesman’s office. “Maulvi Abdul Raqib Takhari, formerly the minister of refugees during the Taliban regime, was supportive of peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan,” the statement read. “He embraced martyrdom on return from Dubai, where he had participated in a meeting convened by Mullah Agha Jan Mutasim to discuss peace.”**

Re: Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan?

whoever is doing it. Thank you, kill as many as you like.

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Kill as many "peace negotiator" you like, all you will left behind is "killers", I bet you like killers more than peace makers... are you a PML-N supporter by any chance?

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And Pakistan army trusts US more than ganja Sharif and phatoo Khan.

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I can't agree / disagree with that, but I believe it is more to do with carrot and stick ;)

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Who cares? Kill them all.

After which we sort out the actual politicians.

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The less talibanic virus the better.

the good/bad Taliban or the notion of IK that Taliban are his illegitimate children is for him only.
Pigs & Taliban have no place in Pakistan.

Re: Who is killing Afghan Taliban in Pakistan?

You surely have no idea what you are talking about.