Who is afraid of Iraq?

“Those who favor this attack now will tell you candidly, and privately, that it is probably true that Saddam Hussein is no threat to the United States. But they are afraid at some point he might decide if he had a nuclear weapon to use it against Israel.” Gen. Wesley Clark, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, CNN military consultant, in a Guardian interview (Aug. 20)
Now there’s a quotation to ponder. President Bush has said on a number of occasions that Saddam Hussein “must not be allowed to threaten the U.S. and its friends and allies” (plural) with weapons of mass destruction. This is the official, public justification for war on Iraq.

But what does the statement mean, exactly? In February the CIA declared that it had no evidence for any Iraqi terrorist attacks on Americans since the Bush I assassination attempt in Kuwait in 1993, and never any on U.S. soil. Saddam’s missiles can’t come close to the U.S. They can reach Moscow, but the Russians aren’t concerned; they’re signing a $ 40 billion economic and trade cooperation package with Iraq. Iraq’s missiles can reach Sicily, but the Europeans aren’t concerned; they firmly oppose U.S. war plans. Iraq’s neighbors, including U.S. friends Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, even Kuwait, say they don’t feel threatened by Iraq and also oppose a war. Emphatically. Only Israel’s Prime Minister Sharon is egging Washington on.

So, taking our cue from plain-talking soldier Clark (who has taken the trouble to write an editorial for the London Times urging a cautious approach to war with Iraq), we can fairly restate Bush’s declaration cited above as follows: “The U.S. must not allow Saddam Hussein to ever, ever threaten our friend Israel with weapons of mass destruction.”

Israel, that is to say, constitutes a unique category in Bu****e geopolitical thinking, as the nation that must never, ever have to factor into its defense strategy the existence of WMDs held by any hostile nation. The 22 Arab nations, meanwhile, constitute another distinct set: these are nations that must never, ever acquire WMDs, especially nukes, because Arabs might use them against Israel. (Whether or not such thinking is reasonable and valid, it’s best to just state it honestly, lest we abominate our lips with Bush-like incoherence or Rumsfeld-like doublespeak. See Proverbs 8:7).

Israel is obviously concerned about Iraq’s weapons programs. In June 1981 it bombed and destroyed the Osirak nuclear reactor in Iraq, which the French had taken a lot of trouble to build, saying Iraq was five to ten years away from acquiring nuclear weapons.

The action was illegal, of course, condemned by the UN and even (mildly) by the U.S. The concern of the settler state was not entirely unrealistic; ten years later, during the Gulf War, Iraq lobbed Scuds at it. But as everyone knows, Israel is itself an (undeclared) nuclear power, and its nukes similarly cause concern throughout the region. (It’s interesting to note, though, that while the U.S. cut off aid to both Pakistan and India after they joined the nuclear club, Israel didn’t even get a slap on the wrist when it went nuclear, ca. 1973). In any case, Israel, as it showed by the Osirak attack, can probably take care of itself, just like Pakistan can take care of itself vis-à-vis India, India vis-à-vis China, China vis-à-vis Russia, etc. The chief of staff of the Israeli Defense Forces himself, Moshe Ya’alon, recently told Ha’aretz that “In the long term, the threat of Iraq or Hezbollah doesn’t make me lose sleep.”

For obvious reasons, there is a great deal of hostility towards the Jewish state in the Arab world. Egypt and Jordan have recognized Israel, and have trade and diplomatic relations, but then, they are U.S. client states (Egypt receiving $ 2 billion a year in U.S. aid), and even in them, in what Colin Powell calls “the Arab street,” there is outrage towards the treatment of Palestinians in the occupied territories. As the largest, most populous, most “modernized” Arab nation in Southwest Asia that is not a U.S. ally or client state, Iraq could, especially in the absence of a solution to the Israel-Palestine problem, pose a challenge to Israel even under a leader far kinder and gentler than Saddam Hussein.

One can easily imagine even a “democratically elected” leader in a secular government in Baghdad thinking, “Israel has nukes. Russia, to our north, has nukes. So do China, Pakistan, and India. Our unfriendly neighbor Iran has a nuclear program. Don’t I owe it to my people to acquire them for our defense-indeed, for the defense of the entire Arab nation?” “Democratically elected” leaders of India have for years felt that obtaining nukes was a reasonable enterprise. Turns out that successive Australian governments have been pursuing a nuclear weapons program, and that Argentina has sought one. Is it satanic for technically advanced nations to want to follow in the footsteps of the U.S., U.S.S.R., Britain, France and China—or merely normal?

It seems as though some very powerful people in Washington think the only way to prevent Iraq from eventually following the course of these other normal nations, and acquiring nukes that could some day be targeted at Israel (just as Israel has nukes targeted at Iraq), is for the U.S. to occupy Iraq and create a new government that will play ball like those in Egypt and Jordan. They’ve been urging an attack on Iraq for years, long before Sept. 11 gave them an opportunity to push their agenda (through crude attempts to link Iraq with al-Qaeda-which continue through reports citing unnamed government sources, citing classified reports that strain one’s credulity).

But (as Madeleine Albright has recently stated) the issue is not really U.S. security. Nor is it the security of other Arab nations, and surely (from the U.S. government’s point of view) not that of the biggest victim of Iraqi aggression, Iran (lumped into the “Axis of Evil” along with Iraq, and also targeted for “regime change”). Rather, it’s the enhancement, to the nth degree, of the security of an Israel already armed to the teeth and capable of nuking Iraq or Syria or lots of other places, big-time. It’s what Scott Ritter has called the “ideological” motivation for an Iraq attack.

I’m not saying that the proponents of the forthcoming Iraq War aren’t also thinking about oil, and a range of other geopolitical issues. I’m simply observing that defense of “our friends” in official statements really means defense of Israel, through the establishment of a kind of “no-fly zone” from the Khyber Pass to the Jordan River, making Israel absolutely safe from Muslim neighbors who presently resent its (nuclear) existence.

But is it rational and moral to send American troops to create that imagined sea of tranquility, establishing client-states which, Egypt-like, trade acceptance of the Zionist project for massive infusions of Marshall Plan-type U.S. aid? Is the project feasible, the goal just, the method even legal? Is it really likely even to enhance the security of Israeli Jews, Israeli Palestinians, and Palestinians in the occupied territories? Personally, I don’t think so. I think it’s a recipe for apocalyptic blowback. You want more terrorists? Follow the recipe.

“We’re all members of the Likud now,” a (Democratic) U.S. senator told a visiting Israeli politician in Washington. That’s very scary. It’s scary when a U.S. Congressional delegation visits Ariel Sharon at the height of his invasion of the West Bank, officially opposed by the Bush administration, to assure him that he has their full support; or when House Republican Leader Dick Armey cheerfully tells Chris Matthews on CNN’s Hardball, “I’m content to have Israel grab the entire West Bank” and that the Palestinians should just get out of there. When Defense Secretary Rumsfeld opines to a Pentagon audience that Israel’s “so-called territories” are really legitimate spoils of war, or when a RAND researcher at the Pentagon calls Saudi Arabia the “kernel of evil” and advocates the creation of a U.S.-sponsored oil state in Eastern Arabia, one has to feel scared. Scared about the rage, not just on the Arab street, but on the global street, that the Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz plan for the world is likely to generate towards even decent, honest, peace-loving Americans (who are already, in their foreign travels, finding it convenient to impersonate Canadians). The craziness may be spinning out of control.

Steering the hijacked ship of state, energized by an ideology as threatening to world peace as the doctrines of the Taliban, are a cabal of men and women who are prepared to provoke the Muslim world (no, the entire world) by actions that even senior Republicans like Henry Kissinger, Lawrence Eagleburger and Brent Snowcroft seem to consider unwise. What to call the members of this warmongering cabal? If we’re talking about “Islamist extremists,” how should we label these folks? “Judeo-Christianist-Zionist fundamentalist imperialist extremists”? Nah, that’s too many “—ists.” So I propose just “crazies,” who unfortunately, by some random (just possibly reversible) fluke of our planetary history, have acquired the ability to threaten the whole human race, your friends and mine—Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and everybody else----with weapons of mass destruction.

*Gary Leupp

an associate professor, Department of History, Tufts University and coordinator, Asian Studies Program. *

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I dont like Iraq... Especially after the support they showed to India over Kashmir...

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Especially after the support they showed to India over Kashmir...
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That's probably because India has provided more support and help towards the Iraqi people in the past twelve years of genocidal sanctions, than the rest of the Muslim world combined.

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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *

That's probably because India has provided more support and help towards the Iraqi people in the past twelve years of genocidal sanctions, than the rest of the Muslim world combined.
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The above might be the case but its more so the economic ties. Saddam has always favored India for that very reason and his stance on Kashmir (for whatever its worth) wasn't very different before the sanctions.

Why the majority of Arab world does not see eye to eye with Pakistan on Kashmir issue? Economics, Pakistan's poor propaganda, Arabs self centeredness ... are just a few reasons.

These days, every time Bush Jr talks about Iraq vis-a-vis UN, I swear hes talking of Israel and Ariel Sharon, until he mentions the names 'Iraq' and 'Saddam'.

"he has defied the UN for so long"
"he has weapons of mass destruction"
"he attacked his neighbors"
"he is in violation of UN security council resolutions"
"We must deal with him Now"

Bush jr....while youre so high on attacking someone with the above characteristics, why not kill 2 birds with one stone? Include israel in your itinerary, and youve got my unflinching support.

ditto

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That's probably because India has provided more support and help towards the Iraqi people in the past twelve years of genocidal sanctions, than the rest of the Muslim world combined.
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You've got to be kidding, Nadia.

That's the same thing Indians say about Palestine, too and side with Israel.

Iraq buys large amount of wheat and rice from Pakistan.

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The above might be the case but its more so the economic ties. Saddam has always favored India for that very reason and his stance on Kashmir (for whatever its worth) wasn't very different before the sanctions.

Not true. Iraq has economic ties with China and Russia.

*Why the majority of Arab world does not see eye to eye with Pakistan on Kashmir issue? Economics, Pakistan's poor propaganda, Arabs self centeredness ... are just a few reasons. *

Well, let me say this Arab sees themselves as Muslims and forget about the rest of the world.

Here's just a clue:

Arab World and Rest of the Muslim World

Those that are so emotional when it comes to the US attacking Iraq, why arent they so emotional when they see Iraq supporting India on the Kashmir stance? I address this question to all those who are criticizing the US simply because they are planning to attack Iraq...

spock because people fall to the "islam" card so easily that once that is used people's ability to evaluate and gauge just gets shot.

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spock because people fall to the "islam" card so easily that once that is used people's ability to evaluate and gauge just gets shot.
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Thank you, but I already knew you would know the answer, I just wanted an answer out of the ppl that support the terrorists, ppl like the hizb members etc, spreading the message of hate...

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These days, every time Bush Jr talks about Iraq vis-a-vis UN, I swear hes talking of Israel and Ariel Sharon, until he mentions the names 'Iraq' and 'Saddam'.

"he has defied the UN for so long"
"he has weapons of mass destruction"
"he attacked his neighbors"
"he is in violation of UN security council resolutions"
"We must deal with him Now"

Bush jr....while youre so high on attacking someone with the above characteristics, why not kill 2 birds with one stone? Include israel in your itinerary, and youve got my unflinching support.
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I was thinking of that too...will any of the world leaders dare say this to Bush?......sigh.......

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*Originally posted by Spock: *
Those that are so emotional when it comes to the US attacking Iraq, why arent they so emotional when they see Iraq supporting India on the Kashmir stance? I address this question to all those who are criticizing the US simply because they are planning to attack Iraq...
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Spock, those are two different issues. You cant punish Iraq for not supporting Kashmir issue.
I agree, Iraq always supports India when it comes to Kashmir.

since iraq has sheite majority it has the same type of problem . what
if the sheite want to joing iran the same way the kashmris?
lot of countries has similar problems like kashmir regardless of religen