Stephen P Cohen is known well to advance Pakistan's interest in US Policy circles. I am sure he has his own reasons for it. Stephen can't defend Pakistan anymore. He can only try to blunt the increasing attacks on Pakistan
The are two reasons why it is taking forever to eliminate Taliban a) Bush administration took the focus away and used 9/11 as an opportunity to further some sort of oil/Middle east agenda b) Pakistan playing games with US while supporting to US with logistics on one hand and protecting Taliban leadership on the other hand. Similarly, it is playing games with India too, supporting activities of LeT (26/11), while talking peace.
So, there is a limit to US patience. Under Obama, the way US went about handling Arab spring and the raid on OBL, gives an indication that they are planing to play it straight as much as possible. Therefore it's no wonder US is taking confrontational approach (not that the co-operative approach they took for 10+ years worked).
Manmohan Singh is linking his visit to Pakistan with progress on Mumbai case to have tangible results from his trip. The issue of Abu Jindal may force another U-turn in Indo-Pak talks.
yeah he is, Indians are lucky to have him as PM!
I'm sure opposition and even some folks from his own party are not happy on his visit to Pakistan!
Not really. He will never go against his party line. Congress will walk only as much towards Pakistan as necessary to score some gains in elections. It will never do anything overwhelmingly which may harm it in polls. Though I wish that Indo-Pak ties should not be held hostage to internal politics on both sides of the border.
you are right, he wouldnt. I was referring to recent tention in Pak-Indo relations, where Indian Home minister accused Pakistan state actors for mumbai attacks, without any evidence provided whtsoever. I hope these recent tention does not prevent the peace talks from moving forward, because if this happens, it will just bring both countries back to square one.
India and Pakistan need to understand that derailing peace process will do good to none. If we continue to talk and take the ties to next level, Mumbai-like incidents would eventually stop forever. There are definitely some people who do not want the two countries to be good neighbours, and we have to decide if we allow them to succeed or the two nations.
India and Pakistan need to understand that derailing peace process will do good to none. If we continue to talk and take the ties to next level, Mumbai-like incidents would eventually stop forever. There are definitely some people who do not want the two countries to be good neighbours, and we have to decide if we allow them to succeed or the two nations.
People of both countries understand peace. But, organizations like LET do not want peace with India. They breed on hate india philosophy and there are similiar elements in India. But, Indian organizations have no reach in Pakistan. Pakistani jihadi organizations on the other hand have developed a network in India with the help of ISI.
And every time people of both countries go forward, these jahils cause trouble by creating something like mumbai or samjhauta.
^ samjhauta was done by some homegrown Indian elements and many other events before that. Even in Mumbai there were many Indian collaborators and there is a lot more to the issue which the Indian govt is not sharing with the people.
There is no doubt that hatemongers exist on both sides of the border. If the majority understands that there are always colaborated efforts to keep the two nations away from each other, why, for the great good of the people, government cannot overcome those rogue elements wherever they are?
^ samjhauta was done by some homegrown Indian elements and many other events before that. Even in Mumbai there were many Indian collaborators and there is a lot more to the issue which the Indian govt is not sharing with the people.
and If i'm not wrong, real culprits were never arrested? its very easy to blame others and get rid of the burden.
and If i'm not wrong, real culprits were never arrested? its very easy to blame others and get rid of the burden.
India is home to one of the biggest domesic terror networks on the planet, And yet the nitwits blame each and every act on evil Pakis. This is what you call living in complete and absolute denial.
^ samjhauta was done by some homegrown Indian elements and many other events before that. Even in Mumbai there were many Indian collaborators and there is a lot more to the issue which the Indian govt is not sharing with the people.
SAmjhauta was done by India Hindu terrorists. But they cannot bomb trains in Pakistan as Hindu terrorists wont have any logistic support in Pakistan. Purohit and rest of his collaborators are in jail right now and trial is going on.
And it was Indian police that caught Purohit and his gang.
Pakistani Muslim terrorists have an edge, since they are able to indroctrinate few Muslims in India. They get logistical support in India from them. And they are successful at it. Be it Mumbai, jhaveri bazaar blasts, mumbai train attacks.
Pakistani govt is doing jack **** about the jihadi cancer that is eminating from LET, Sipahe Saba etc.
There is no doubt that hatemongers exist on both sides of the border. If the majority understands that there are always colaborated efforts to keep the two nations away from each other, why, for the great good of the people, government cannot overcome those rogue elements wherever they are?
Yes, hatemongers exists on both sides, but only one side is hurting the other side and to top it, the government on that side is not doing anything. You know which side I am talking about. On the Indian side, there is no tolerance for state or non-state actors to act as proxies.
India banned some Hindu organizations, why not Pakistan ban LET or whatever their new name is. The problem is unlike India where majority (except in extremely under developed tribal regions) do not support organized armed groups, Pakistani society seems to have a affinity to jihadism. India captured and punished the Samjotha express perpetrators and even granting compensation to Pakistani victims. Even those organizations which are in way responsible for indoctrinating these (Samjotha) perpetrators did not support them before or after.
First, it was the US that took action on behalf of India by putting a price on LET founder. Now, the Saudis are co-operating with Indian agencies. Apart from Abu Jundal, there is another case of an Indian arrested still to be deported, the wife of the arrested even narrated the fact there were Indian agents present with Saudi police. Fast changing scene in the Middle east is making west (and it's Oil allies) less dependent on Pakistan.
So, it's time for Pakistan to wake-up, use the opportunity India is providing. Despite all the revelations India is still talking not taking a confrontational attitude.
Let Pakistan capture some of those responsible for crimes in India then you will see real progress. They can easily be handed over to India via a third country, with no outward involvement of Pakistan, therefore reducing any outcry.
For those guppies that keep talking about peace, why don't you start the process by publicly condemning these organizations that attack India in this forum.
For those guppies that keep talking about peace, why don't you start the process by publicly condemning these organizations that attack India in this forum.
I dont remember seeing anybody here who supports these banned outfits, time and time again, we Pakistanis have condemn these organizations.
For those guppies that keep talking about peace, why don't you start the process by publicly condemning these organizations that attack India in this forum.
Indian guppies who are interested in 'condemnation' should go through several related pages where Pakistani guppies have condemned these organizations. Its not Pakistani guppies job to create a separate thread to register their condemnation to show to Indian guppies.
