I can’t believe anyone could justify in anyway the criminal responsible for killings of thousands of innocent people.
No normal person can justify killer of thousands of innocent people on the pretext that some criminal are also roaming free.
It is no wonder Pakistan is a pathetic mess where other people don’t even come to play cricket.
Re: Should Punjab carry Pakistan's burden?
I can't believe anyone would be shameless enough to justify in anyway the criminal responsible for killings of thousands of innocent people. It is amazing how this board come to have moderators like this ajazali guy. Only an insane person can justify killer of thousands of innocent people on the pretext that some criminal are also roaming free.
I said it earlier in another thread and I say it again. With people like ajazali and javedmiandad around, it is no wonder Pakistan is a pathetic mess where other people don't even come to play cricket.
lolz. You are in habit of labeling with 'khawrji' anyone disagrees with you , but i am not.
I have said it several times on this forum, that whoever is involved in **sectarian killings and cause it by spreading hate **should be countered indiscriminately.
see, for many people, Sipah e Mohammad is a reality, but you never condemned them, isnt it insanity?
Re: Should Punjab carry Pakistan's burden?
lolz. You are in habit of labeling with 'khawrji' anyone disagrees with you , but i am not. I have said it several times on this forum, that whoever is involved in **sectarian killings and cause it by spreading hate **should be countered indiscriminately.
see, for many people, Sipah e Mohammad is a reality, but you never condemned them, isnt it insanity?
Actually, I use the word khariji for a specific kind of people. Those who call takfir on other Muslims and consider it islamic to kill innocent people based on that takfir.
How many innocent Sunnis have Sipahe Muhammad killed, and how many innocent Shias AND Sunnis has Khawarij like SSP, and Malik Ishaq have killed? Just cite figures from this year alone.
I think moderators on this forum should notice what kind of Sipahe Sahaba apologists they have made moderators here.
Let's do this. I will pick random acts of terrorism against innocent Shias and Sunnis by those Sipahe Sahaba/Taliban Khawarij and you do this by such acts committed by Sipahe Muhammad. Lets see who killed more innocent people.
And since Shias are minority therefore more Sunnis must have been killed by Sipahe Muhammad.
Re: Should Punjab carry Pakistan's burden?
^ I consider you appologist of Sipah e Mohammad as you are not condemning them. Sipah e Mohammad have Killed several Deobandi ulema in Karachi.
As I have said serveral times, again i would say that be it SSP or Sipah e Mohammad, both should be countered. But i am of firm believe that, most of the problems would be solved if people stopped cursing Sahaba.
Re: Should Punjab carry Pakistan’s burden?
27 July 2013
Parachinar Targeted by Taliban ‹ Newsweek Pakistan
AT LEAST 43 KILLED, OVER 200 INJURED IN SUICIDE ATTACKS CLAIMED BY THE ANSAR-UL-MUJAHIDEEN.
Twin suicide attacks rocked a busy marketplace in northwest Pakistan on Friday, killing at least 43 people and injuring more than 200 others, officials said, in the deadliest attack to hit the country during the holy month of Ramzan.
A spokesman for the splinter Taliban group, **Ansar-ul-Mujahideen, claimed responsibility for the attack. **A spokesman for the group, Abu Baseer, said: “It was carried out by their mujahedeen and the target was the Shia community. Shias are the enemies of Islam and we will continue to attack them in future.”
Re: Should Punjab carry Pakistan's burden?
What are you views on Sipah e Mohammad?
Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists?
Our revered moderator ajazali thinks that killings perpetrated by khariji extremists are at par with killings of innocent people by Sipahe Muhammad.
I wonder how he can have the audacity to compare the two at all.
Do you guys think he is right?
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
27 July 2013
AT LEAST 43 KILLED, OVER 200 INJURED IN SUICIDE ATTACKS CLAIMED BY THE ANSAR-UL-MUJAHIDEEN.
Twin suicide attacks rocked **a busy marketplace **in northwest Pakistan on Friday, **killing at least 43 people **and injuring more than 200 others, officials said, in the deadliest attack to hit the country during the holy month of Ramzan.
A spokesman for the splinter Taliban group, Ansar-ul-Mujahideen, claimed responsibility for the attack. A spokesman for the group, Abu Baseer, said: “It was carried out by their mujahedeen and the target was the Shia community. Shias are the enemies of Islam and we will continue to attack them in future.”
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Ali, ask this guy stop being personal.
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Ali, ask this guy avoid being personal.
Calling someone revered is not being personal. But if it hurts your feelings then I will not do it.
Now get back to the topic and please cite incidences of killings of innocent people by Sipahe Muhammad.** I dare you.**
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Guys please discuss but keep your cool...
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Take it for once and for all, I am not spokesman of LEJ. Got it?
If you are not spokesman of Sipah e Mohammad, provide your comments on them.
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Let us say we are not spokesmen of anyone. We only want to see who killed more innocent people in the name of religion. You equated acts of terrorism by Khawarij with those by Sipahe Muhammad. I say this is comparing apples to oranges. Because Khawarij have killed far far far more innocent people then Sipahe Muhammad.
in support of my claim I am going to post random news about acts of terrorism against innocent people by Khawarij. You are free to do it about Sipahe Muhammad.
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1 February 2013 Last updated at 12:05 GMT
BBC News - Pakistan bomb: 21 die in Hangu Shia suicide attack
Pakistan bomb: 21 die in Hangu Shia suicide attack
At least 21 people have been killed and dozens injured in a suicide bomb attack outside a Shia mosque in the north-western Pakistani town of Hangu, reports say.
The attack took place as worshippers were leaving Friday prayers.
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
To be very frank, I have seen a bit of sectarian killings in late 80's and 90's in Punjab and that was scary. During that time SSP and SEM killed the members of the opposing sects indiscriminately.
In the past 10 years, barring a few attacks on 'ulema' in Karachi (who I am not sure are ulema or ASWJ's members) the killing is pretty one way. There's no comparison at all.
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Suicide attack hits Imambargah in Rawalpindi, 20 killed, over 40 injured | The News Tribe
Suicide attack hits Imambargah in Rawalpindi, 20 killed, over 40 injured
By Mirza Hassan Nov 21st, 2012 ( 2 Comments )
Rawalpindi: **At least 20 people have been killed **and over 40 others injured after a suicide blast hit an Imambargah located in Rawalpindi, a metropolitan of Pakistan.
According to rescue sources, the blast hit Shiite mourners near Qasr-e-Shabbir Imambargah in Dhoke Syedan area of Rawalpindi, killing 20 people and injuring over 40 others.
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
To be very frank, I have seen a bit of sectarian killings in late 80's and 90's in Punjab and that was scary. During that time SSP and SEM killed the members of the opposing sects indiscriminately.
In the past 10 years, barring a few attacks on 'ulema' in Karachi (who I am not sure are ulema or ASWJ's members) the killing is pretty one way. There's no comparison at all.
That is by TTP mainly. Now compare the number of Sunnis and Shia killed by TTP.
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Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Claims Attacks on Women
16 JUN 2013
LASHKAR-E-JHANGVI CLAIMS ATTACKS ON WOMEN’S BUS, HOSPITAL IN QUETTA
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the terrorist group responsible for a series of bloody assaults on Shia Muslims, has said it carried out the attack on a bus carrying **female students in Quetta and the attack on a hospital **the same day. At least 25 people died in the attacks.
In a telephonic conversation with journalists, Jhangvi said a female suicide bomber struck the bus in Quetta, capital of Balochistan province, on Saturday and killed 14 women students. A follow-up attack around 90 minutes later targeted a hospital treating survivors, leaving at least 11 dead. It led to a prolonged gun battle between security forces and militants, who were occupying part of the building.
Abubakar Siddiq, a spokesman for Jhangvi, called newspaper offices in Quetta late Saturday to claim the killings. “The suicide attack on the bus was carried out by one of our sisters. She boarded the student bus and blew herself up,” Siddiq said. “Then we carried out a second suicide attack at the hospital and our fighters killed several people. We did this because security forces killed our fighters and their wives in Kharotabad.”
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
Abbas Town in Karachi, attacks on Hazaras in Quetta, Parachinar and Gilgit etc were all by LEJ and affiliates. For a moment if we disregard Shias, why were barelvis targeted by them?
Re: Who has killed more innocent people in Pak? Khariji extremists or Shia extremists
That is by TTP mainly. Now compare the number of Sunnis and Shia killed by TTP.
Oh so LJ has no responsibility to carry out these attacks? How can you say that with a straight face?
BTW, I** am still waiting for some news article from you about Sipahe Muhammad killing innocent people**.