who got freedom we or english?

every body wants to go uk, us or other western countries.
civil society/ adminstration/judiciary/ law and order/development that we had in english time, never happend after that …
karachi was queen of asia now city of terroism..religious violence, miltary rule…

i think english got freedom from a nonsense nations like us not we …

Re: who got freedom we or english?

Fair point, every govt, especially the current one just loots and ruins the country

Re: who got freedom we or english?

because we havent realised our own potential and no leader came forward to chanalise efforts of people. not many feel positive about Pakistan and look for easy way out to acheive goals that may have been possible in Pakistan itself.

Re: who got freedom we or english?

No one got freedom.. The brits jst let their slaves free.. bt then.. we are still slaves of the west..

we find them more inferior - their culture, music, clothing. tv. education. living style etc.. its a mind game… its how u preceive the world..

a gora comes and lives in pak.. all pakis get amazed and treat him like a king.. wen he might be shamock from west.. who is a lowlife in their country.. and compare that to us.. may we be educated or not.. we are treated as secound class citizen.. where eva we go.. m not sayin go and beat up that gora comin to ya country.. bt atleast have some pride in ya selves.. go and check most paki communities overseas.. most of them dont even wana know each other.. they wana hng wid da gora ppl..

in our city we have 13 families.. and all of em got grudges against each other.. hahahah sad.. .

this dude from one of the political parties we use to support.. came to us for donation even after they won the elections.. ma mom said now ur in power.. u do something for us.. dat doofus forgot that my mom is a not a women to mess wid.. shes a hard yard paki.. so he said.. "ur not a kiwi, u are immigrant.. man ma mom gave him a peice of ****.. she said " wat is the diff between u and me??? u hav nz passport.. i have nz passport.. u speak english.. i have speak english.. u got rights.. i got rights.. the only diff is.. ur nz born.. m paki born.. " man.. told dat guy fto gt his ass off my land.. and didnt see that assholes face again..

we once had dis dude come to ma uncle and say some ****.. and ma uncle also gave him ****.. he said “i can speak ur language.. bt can u speak my language???” dat put dat guy into shame..

so its all in the head.. u let them treat u bad.. u get treated bad.. u stand up.. u rule.. its ilke bullies at school.. u let them beat u up.. they will keap doin.. till u beat them up..

bt anyway… peace..

Allah hafiz

Re: who got freedom we or english?

So who looted the provinces that became Pakistan more - The successive post-independence Pakistani governments (be they democratic or military), or the British Raj?

Who ran the provinces more effectively and develeoped them more?