who claims that Taliban are right ?

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What i see is that a kafir, "truthfinder" knows more about Islam than you.

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Its pointless arguing with you. You fail to take into consideration the circumstances and the context under which the verses were revealed.

The Prophet's Seerah and Hadith is an explanation of the Quran, and its interesting how you continue to ignore the hadith and his sayings regarding those "muslims" who fail to keep up with the obligatory duties.

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Oh spare us...pot calling kettle black here...how easily context is dismissed as negating the 'universalism' of the message when it suits one's fancy...

Just look at how you treated the hadith relating to the beard...but oh no, no context there...it's all about the beard, let's not pretend like there's a context to it...

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Mmmkay...and what did the women and children do?

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No it just shows that Islamic haters and Islamic extremists are cut from the same cloth, meant to defame and ridicule Islam. You sure keep great company. Be proud of it.

I know it can be pointless trying to refute the words of Allah.

Tell me, if someone does not pray, that makes that person a kafir, correct? Then how can you force that kaffir to pray without going against what is so clearly written in the Quran of no compulsion in religion?

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[quote=Khehkeshan]
No it just shows that Islamic haters and Islamic extremists are cut from the same cloth, meant to defame and ridicule Islam. You sure keep great company. Be proud of it. 

           Thanks god this is internet. otherwise  Khehkeshan would have chopped my head off. This is the problem with you the so called ' Islamic lovers' . If someone point out the abberations in Isam and Islamic history call him kafir and destroy him either by words or if possible physically!
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So U agree that whatever truthfinder has stated in his post is true? Are U okay brother? I simply cant believe it, and I m sad that still no one has come ahead to refute the guy for his fabricated ahadith.

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^ are you okay?

Those are authentic hadith and they are far from being fabricated.

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So U believe in those ahadith? maybe coz U are a muslim, but I cant believe them coz I m a kafir, and have more respect for the the holy prophet than urself. Cant believe that such a great man can do things like killing innocents, I m sure that today's extremist elements are more fascinated with those so called authentic ahadith than holy quran.

BTW u know something about the game called chinese whisper?

Thanks

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sorry dont know whats wrong with my system, one single post has been p osted so many times, thats why so many edit messages. Sorry again for this absurd mistake

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Yeah! Because they wer eagainest Pirri Faqiri Peers should have hard tim e to find out any thing what they were In gowantan mobey or what ever it is whats going on with htose innocent people Americans also saying Staff of that Prisson is Nasty.Woh qabron ko barabr kr rhy thy Ahkamy ilahi ky Mutabiq woh Idols tor rahy thy Ju ky nabi Kereem ny bhi kia tha Yeh bhla Munafqeen ko ky sy pasand ata shumali Itehad Is nt it belongs to Iran I guess they did not like to stop the people stop th eworship of Graves Is sy tu karobar chal rha hy on logon ka Huh. **
**American Media tu qail ho giy atha jab so calle dHostiges Yrghmal bnai gai Orton ny a kr kaha ky onhon ny ham sy koi bad tamizi nahi ki thi hamin Sister sister keh kr mukhatib krty thy.
Muslmanon ki aqal ghas charny chali gai hy
Woh Orat ko woh Tahafuz dyn achahty thy ju os ka haq hy magar is bat ko samjhany ko ky Asal Islam Bivi or Kaneez main kai farqa krta hy Hamary han ky mard samajhna nahi chahty.Orat ky mozo pr jab Americans bolty hain hamdardi krt hain Muslim orton sy main kehan chahti ho yeh khud aina dakhin Asal Islam ny tu Orat ku ju tahafiz diya Muslims ny on qwanen ko hi badal dal ky Baqol Iqbal
Khud badalty nahi Qurran badal dyty hain
Agar main himat nahi rakhti ky woh kar sakon ju Taliban ny ki akam as kam Sarah sakti hon and thats it.

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Itna pryshan mat ho Just click once or twice when post some thing or make diferent smilies with edit when it happes Or bhi gham hain zmany main is bat pr pryshan hony ky siwa:D

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MMMnokay...were these children the same that were purportedly tossed out of their incubators by the fleeing Iraqi Army, as alleged by one of American soldiers and later proved to be a bold face lie, told to demonize the Iraqis…

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Truthfinder, you'd be surprised that he is what would can be best described as moderately enlightened liberal secular and tolerant muslim....in other words if liberal and tolerant amongst the muslims are so intolerant then there is gotta be something inherently wrong with Islam...Either that or what I find more close to the truth is the fact that there is no such thing as moderate or extremist islam...Every religious group, particularly so Islam, and its followers' behavior, not Islam's core and salient ideology or philosophy, has its share of intolerance and provilicity to violence...and there is no monopoly on this extreme behavior by either the supposed liberal/enlightened/moderate or the supposed conservative/obscurantists/extremists amongst muslims...

What either group, the supposed conservative extremist and the enlightened moderate, particularly so the latter should realize is that when viewed from outside, very rarely do the adversaries of Islam/muslim draw the distinction, which the liberal/secular muslims are so keen to sell and the actions of any one group is seen as an indicment of the whole...therefore, the liberal secular degenerates would be better off not selling themselves as nang-e-millat, nang-e-deen and nang-e-watan...because in doing so they acquire a state of limbo, where they are neither muslim, though their Islamophobic bigotry would make their masters proud, nor fully accepted and always viewed with suspicion in the circles they aspire to be assimilated...

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Thanks for your advice CheGuvera, but Islam is not a popularity contest and unlike you, I have largely ignored this "truthfidner" guy. He is not important. Don't get all emotional about this, just follow the words of Quran and the Prophet and everything will be ok.

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I guess that am disussing this with the educated that also english educated people through this forum . See ,the opinion of these people are very important because they can influence the majority of the ordinary people in the sub continent.

   <p> If the educated mass is reluctant to face the tuth and hide their face in their own beliefs, what will happen to the society .utter chaos.  Many of the muslims are of the belief that 'HUMAN  GARDEN' SHOULD contain only one kind of flower ' Muslim' . If at all some other flower exists in the garden those should give the JIZYA....!!.they strongly belive this and work for it. The manifestation you can see in TURKEY,Afgan (ironically turkey believe that theirs is a secular state) and in so many  other places. They are not knowing that they have become the prophets of hate. </P>

There may be some sort of rethinking in them if there is opposition to their ideas from their own society. See the examples of KKK of America ,the defeat of HINDU fundas in India. What about Muslims ?(reference to the Militants . People are happy to escape from the problem by saying all region is having militant elements). Sharabbi is terribly true in his opinion and there are a lot of people like him.

Their beliefs are based on the number of hadiths, tabaris which contain only killing and hate. The tragedy is that majority of Muslims are so hypocrats that they either deny the existence of such wordings or defend it by saying ...this context , that context etc.... When the Muslim people will start telling " yes it were there. but not applicable to Todays Islam?. When they will start opposing those who wants to implemnt those hadiths/tabaris ?</p?

I dont know the time frame .but then only the true ISLAM will come.
Till Sharabbi is right ... Only Sharabi is right..

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I am not be important. But dont tell the same to my words. Pleas follow ,

[9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful..

Don't miss anybody.

[8:12] Recall that your Lord inspired the angels: "I am with you; so support those who believed. I will throw terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved. You may strike them above the necks, and you may strike even every finger."

[8:65] O you prophet, you shall exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty of you who are steadfast, they can defeat two hundred, and a hundred of you can defeat a thousand of those who disbelieved. That is because they are people who do not understand.

What General Yahya did in 1971...

[4:144] O you who believe, you shall not ally yourselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Do you wish to provide GOD with a clear proof against you?

Dont take friends from non muslims....

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with love to Khehkeshan