While hanafis are Sunnis I wanted to clarify if the followers of other three imams are also Sunnis? Say for example those who follow imam Hanbal?
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Yes
Should also be Sunnis, is the answer
Most of the wahabiiyya actually do claim to follow a fiqh, for example those we would recognize as wahabis may consider themselves as Hanbali. I do not accept this claim from them
But as a general statement that the followers of the four Madhabs are Sunnis is acceptable and has been true. For example Pir Abdul Qadir who is Pir of many Hanafis was Himself Hanbali.
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The Islamic nation has been pretty similar before the rise of the wahabiyya for example they all kept Mazaarat of Awliya. Ibn Abdul Wahab Najdi’s killing spree was actually against Hanbalis and shiites, for being mushrikin. So its proof that we were similar (Hanafis and Hanbalis…and to some extent Shiites)
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Question, are Wahabis considered Sunni?
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Depending on locality they themselves consider themselves Sunni, in Pakistan the ahle hadis i know look down upon the word sunni [do not regard themselves as Sunni]
I do not regard wahabis as Sunnis
The term Sunni is from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah. So whoever sticks to the community is Sunni. The wahabis only purpose is to break away from the community, and re-interpret the religion. So they are not Sunni
They are sunnis in the respect that they follow the sunnah, and hadiths but we do not see the wide ranging interpretations that would be expected from such an exercise, all the conclusions are very much close to what their founder Ibn Andul Wahab Najdi was upon
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I have noticed recently most of the sunnis .. or people I meet who claim to be sunnis are not really ones … maybe they are but I always found to be leaning towards wahabism school of thought. This creates kinda confusion
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The saudis have ploughed so much money into pushing this ideology that its unlikely any of us here are not at least a bit effected by it.
125 years ago there was no wahabis or very little. lol what a turn around, what an attempt..
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Wahabis didn’t exist before 200 years ago but their ideology was there since the time of Islam. Abdul wahab, he just gave those people identity and a platform to work on and lo and behold we have a new sect .. for the worse funded by Saudis doing tabligh, making bigger mosques .. essentially preying on uneducated masses
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Sunni scholars upset at Isis being referred to as Sunnis:
Subjects include Mazaarat and Pious Land
Mentions some [there is a lot more] of the Ulema who said ‘‘if you go to such and such Grave your prayers will be answered…if you go to such and such a Grave on Saturdays your prayers will be answered’’
These are the same Scholars of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah who the wahabiyyah take Hadith from or use for some other purpose, Imam Nawawi and Ibn Khuzaymah mentioned here
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I think the term “Sunni” in the minds of most, is simply a generic term to refer to anyone who isn’t Shia.
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I think this thread is going to be vroomified again:(
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So can we conclude that those who are not Shias (barring ghair muqallad) are Sunnis?
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ISIS are not Sunni because their actions cannot exonerate them from the blame they receive which breach the elements in the aqeedah of Sunnis.
For example you literally cannot claim to recognise awliyya … yet blow up their graves … Points 100, 137, 138 are in the Aqeedah At-Tahawiyya.
The extreme forms seem to appear like Sunnis … but they are not - they lack love and compassion and respect of the past scholars and likewise if we harbour hate and disrespect for others then we are not better either.
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^Psyah you keep pointing towards Aqeedah At-Tahawi these days- have you actually read it yourself?
The Shaykh Ninowy commentary heavily discourages use of the Hadith in your signature!
This brings us back to the topic Sunnis are people who Love with reverence the AhulBayt [Family of The Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam]. We are Hussaini’s [as opposed to some others who are yazidis]
According to point 112 we are to dislike/hate the people of tyranny, injustice and betrayal
note: Some students learn slow, painfully slow and their learning is hampered by untreated love of people who love isis type miscreants.
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What do you think about them killing unarmed non-combatant civilians (the videos they purportedly release)?
Do they do it or is it a propaganda?
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JazakAllahuKhair brother vroom
Do you think I would advocate something if I had not read it? I am studying it … I can recite it about 10% of it from memory in Arabic and English. I will continue inshaAllah until I have completed. I have undertaken 2 collective readings in the local dzikr group with it. I have also studied it with a Sunni (Barelvi) 'alim in 2009, he was a lovely person.
Sh. Asrar Rashid in the video you posted about his response to the people who wanted to challenge him about his 'aqeedah - even he clearly states that he follows Al-Aqeedatu-Tahawiyya
Listen 1 min 17 sec - until - 1 min 34 sec
Also the video you posted of Sh. Mufti Monawwar Ateeq … I know him too and attended common gatherings - as he is another respected student of Sh. Muhammad Al-Ya’qoubi.
The hadith is merely a quote - I am not using it as hukum or evidence of any kind. It is simply a signature line.
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I think it could well be propaganda, but ISIS as an ideology is false and not part of Islam - let alone Ahl-us-Sunnah.