Who are according to you the true martyrs...In 20th century

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I specifically meant 20th century because I did not want invaders and looters in the list. :smiley:

Bhindranwala is there in the list.

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What are the contributions of Bhindranwala?

I think Gandhi ji was also Shaheed. :)

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ghalti se mistake ho gai. I forgot to mention Bhutto Shaheed :p

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^But how come you used that smiley? :( He is the son of our Sindh land. :)

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After being attached to Bhutto khandan, shahadat is a big joke :biggthumb: This time, I’m not being affected with Sind card :smiley:

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A great orator ,a great organizer and a great planner,I would say.He moved Sikhs through his rhetorics,made khalistan a house hold name and augmented Khalistan issue .he was true to his words and stood by it ,kind of walk the talk ,did the last stand to his breath.It was he who had moved Sikhs from being silent to rora like lions.But the extremist wings of the Sikh society had to pay a heavy price for his deeds ,later.

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:smiley:

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On a serious note, people who got killed in 1965 war on both sides of the border. Each party believed them to be true martyrs as they lost their lives for their countries.

hum jo tareek raahon main maare gae
daar ki khushk tehni pe waare gae

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seems like counter part of G M Syed :hehe:

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:hehe:

But JSQM still holds rallies in Karachi and elsewhere in Sindh. :smiley: But unlike Mr.Syed,Bhindranwala had more to do with guns.He was killed in Operation Blue star in 1984.Unlike Mr.Syed ,who was put under house arrest and dies,Bhindranwala and his entourage were surrounded and they all persished in a fierce gun battle..

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aap zara Lingusitic forum main hazri den.. Mr Syed :stuck_out_tongue:

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:D

Repect for all.My mantra.. :D

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Mr and Syed both are titles :D

Though Syed himself was armless, but many students were killed during agitations due to movements run by him. Agencies were active in those days and missing persons is not a new story in Pakistan's history.

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Yes... :D

It is the same in India's case aswell.This is how `some' in India dealt with Khalistan problem.When Khalistan extremists started targeting the security personnel's family members,the security agencies paid them back in full by targeting the family members of the militants ,thus rupturing their morality.

May be slightly off the topic. But have you heard abt Dilip Dass who had taken part in the Baloch struggle in 1970's?A Sindhi guy,who had joined the armed struggle in Balochistan but later got caught and his body was never recovered.His body was never recovered even when his father was a high ranking military officer. At times ,security agencies have to adopt this kind of excesses ,to repress armed rebellions.

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Not heard of Dilip Daas.

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^

https://lubpak.com/archives/285927

**Secretive Najam Sethi and mysterious agencies

  • by Asif Jilani**
    I have never met Najam Sethi, the caretaker chief minister of Punjab (March-June 2013) — not even when in the early 1970s he was studying in England and was a member of the “London Club” made up of Pakistani students inspired by Marxism.
    It was from my friend Qadir Buksh Nizamani that I heard about Sethi for the first time. Those days, Qadir was known as “Karim Baluch” and was leading the Free Baluchistan Movement from London. He told me in confidence that five “London Club” young men had joined the Movement, and had landed in Baluchistan. One of them, he said, was Najam Sethi. The other four were Ahmad Rasheed, Dilip Das (son of a Pakistan Air Force officer), and Rashed Rahman and Asad Rahman, sons of Justice Rahman.
    While mentioning Najam Sethi, Mr Nizamani became worried. I asked him why, and he replied: “Even his close friends say he is a secretive person. The confidante sent by General Sherof Sher Muhammad Marri to assess the credibility of these five young men was not sure about Najam Sethi.”
    In 1975, Najam Sethi was arrested while on an army helicopter. It led to suspicions about his loyalties. Soon after Sethi’s ‘arrest’ three of his friends were arrested while Dilip Das was killed by Pakistani soldiers near the Pakistan-India border. On investigation, it was found that these “London Club” gentlemen had lived in the mountains in Baluchistan where they were given military training. They were also taught the Baluch language and culture. In 1975, Najam Sethi suddenly decided to move to Karachi on the pretext of collecting funds for the Baluch freedom struggle. For some time there was no trace of him. Then all of a sudden he was found flying to Baluchistan on an army helicopter! His friends were puzzled as how why he would fly to Baluchistan on an army helicopter. They suspected that he had flown in order to identify the Baluch freedom fighters’ hideouts in the mountains. A few days before his death, Asad Rahman pointed this out in an interview. Najam Sethi
    After his ‘arrest’ in Quetta, Sethi was shifted to Hyderabad with Baluch leaders who had been jailed by Z.A. Bhutto for treason. In 1978, General Zia pardoned all the prisoner including Sethi. After his release Sethi became a journalist and soon became an exceedingly prosperous and successful journalist.
    It was probably in 1976 that Saeed Ahmed Khan, a high-ranking intelligence officer, met me in my office in London disguised as a Hippie. I recognized him and told him that I had met him in the police headquarters in Karachi. He was rather shocked and embarrassed at that. He frankly told me why he had come to see me. I asked him about Najam Sethi. He only nodded his head implying that what I was thinking about him was correct. Then he looked around as if ascertaining that no one had seen him.
    In 1993, Farooq Laghari dismissed Benazir’s government over corruption charges and appointed Meraj Khalid as caretaker prime minister. Najam Sethi was appointed Accountability Minister in the Meraj cabinet. Later on, the corruption cases against Benazir and Zaradri during Nawaz Sharif’s tenure were in fact prepared during Sethi’s ministership. In 1996, it was Najam Sethi who helped the BBC prepare an incriminating documentary about Benazir and Zardari called “The Princess and the Playboy”. (Details here: Princess and the Playboy: Zardari and Benazir Bhutto were partners in corruption – by Najam Sethi)
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I think it was in 2011,there was an online talk with Mr.Malik Siraj of Balochwarna online,and I had asked him about Mr.Dilip's religious backgrounds and other details.He could not give me a satisfactory answer.

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asal shaheed.. muhabbat ka shaheed

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/indo-pak-history/570125-1947-a-love-story.html