Whle People are Dying

[ehsan]

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Why are you changing the goal posts every time?? i have openly asked you that if there is no body left, is it ok to make any maja, gama the head???? you convincingly ignore anything i say and just stick to one thing, looks like a jiyala attitude...

Anyway, there are plenty in the country which can take on the job...

About criticizing others, a quiz for you! In a popular comedy show Hum Sub Umeed say haiN, which politician is named Tanqeed Khan?? yes your guess is right, it is Imran Khan... so baseless tanqeed is not what i do, it is what your beloved leader practices and practices to an extended where he have actually changed it into a rivalry and later he have got into habit of licking his own spit ( case against MQM comes to mind)

Sorry my reply was bit dodgy but so was your comment...

PS: Since as per the VP of paklinks, i have baseless allegations against some GOD like Personality call IK, would i be banned from this forum???

I am not changing goal posts you are the one who is refusing to answer my question of listing alternatives and what others have down, as I have said I agree he has not done anything. Now YOU list what others have done or are you going to post another 30 lines of nothing.

Another thing research before you accuse others, in this case read my posts about IK before saying that I support him. I clearly criticized him for his support of taliban. I am not his supporter but do give credit where it is due and do not indulge in criticism for the sake of it which is what this thread is all about

That comment about banning was a cheap shot like the one pakistani policticans indulge in. I thought you were above such things.

[Ali_Syed]

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Why are you changing the goal posts every time?? i have openly asked you that if there is no body left, is it ok to make any maja, gama the head???? you convincingly ignore anything i say and just stick to one thing, looks like a jiyala attitude...

Anyway, there are plenty in the country which can take on the job...

About criticizing others, a quiz for you! In a popular comedy show Hum Sub Umeed say haiN, which politician is named Tanqeed Khan?? yes your guess is right, it is Imran Khan... so baseless tanqeed is not what i do, it is what your beloved leader practices and practices to an extended where he have actually changed it into a rivalry and later he have got into habit of licking his own spit ( case against MQM comes to mind)

Sorry my reply was bit dodgy but so was your comment...

PS: Since as per the VP of paklinks, i have baseless allegations against some GOD like Personality call IK, would i be banned from this forum???

The problem is that we dont have any other option too, qahat ul rijaal...we have tried naraaz sharif twice, but he has failed to deliver every time...the justification of pmln supporters is that his party is better than ppp...i dont know better in what (maybe better in doing nothing)??? due to this better mantra and fear of ppp coming into power i have voted pmln during the past two elections, but seeing their performance during this tenure I wont be voting pmln next time for sure, and I know many pmln supporters who are thinking the same...pmln is somehow feeling threatened by one man who has a single seat??? is pmln really a national party???

they had the chance at least in Punjab, if they had delivered there they would have been in a comfortable position...I dont think the credit goes to IK or anyone else, the credit goes to the brothers for exposing themselves yet once again this time in their own province....

[hanibal]

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I am not changing goal posts you are the one who is refusing to answer my question of listing alternatives and what others have down, as I have said I agree he has not done anything. Now YOU list what others have done or are you going to post another 30 lines of nothing.

Don't know if you are even reading it just coming up with same questions again and again...

please last half of the pot # 70 for the answer of alternatives...

As far as your comment regarding what others have done is concerned!! let me ask you if others have done what they supposedly be doing, would the nation would be looking for change or any one could have been successful to fool the nation in name of change or revolution?!!!

My total concern is, the kind of utopia IK is building, the kind false hopes he is giving, the kind of hatred he spreading against the NON-PTIans, he is creating a bigger mess what we are facing today... The frustration which is in the nation, the anger have become the character of the nation, the fear in which the nation is living, and with all this going the thoughts in the PTI circles are that only if there is FREE and FAIR elections, then they will win... and if they lost that would be only because of rigging... and when i and many like me refuted this thought saying that PTI as a political party (despite the support) is not organized to contest any elections being held in near future, it is rejected by anger and emotions saying if they lose they will create a havoc teaching voters a lesson for not voting them...

This is why i am gone all against PTI....IK have not got any ability to control the party ( e.g. every 2 months the CC of any city get dissabled or broken) if PTI looses election ( which by some analyst they will win 4/5 seats and by haroon rasheed 40 at max) they will tear down everything... i hope i am wrong...

[hanibal]

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The problem is that we dont have any other option too, qahat ul rijaal...we have tried naraaz sharif twice, but he has failed to deliver every time...the justification of pmln supporters is that his party is better than ppp...i dont know better in what (maybe better in doing nothing)??? due to this better mantra and fear of ppp coming into power i have voted pmln during the past two elections, but seeing their performance during this tenure I wont be voting pmln next time for sure, and I know many pmln supporters who are thinking the same...pmln is somehow feeling threatened by one man who has a single seat??? is pmln really a national party???

they had the chance at least in Punjab, if they had delivered there they would have been in a comfortable position...I dont think the credit goes to IK or anyone else, the credit goes to the brothers for exposing themselves yet once again this time in their own province....

there was time in 90s when it was said that there is no other option but NS to lead the nation... today it is being said that there is no option but IK to lead the nation... this no option thing does not exist, there is always option, it is we are so blind that we don't want to see beyond out noses, we consider the leader we like a god, we believe that there is nothing but the leader and the world revolves around him... and this is exactly the reason the Bhutto survived this long, this is the reason Sharifs are still there... and this is the reason Imran is out there...

You want options, Ehsan is looking for alternates??? leaders are not potatoes or bananas which can be bought from the grocery store around the corner.. leadership develops and the TAGHOOTI powers normally shut this door by telling them this blunt lie that there is no option, there is no hope and there is no alternate and they make you believe that this one ( doesn't matter how incompetent) is your leader... in 60s it was ayoub, in 80s it was Zia, it 90s it was benazir and in last decade it was Mushy with his great 6 point agenda..

Look around you, Baidar Pakistan is organizing strikes against corruption!! Remember our leader will be the one who will start his fight against corruption and would take initiatives to curb it... for that he won't be needing the spot of PM...

You want to see it happening, see what has happened in Bangladesh, the one of the most corrupt country in the world ruled by two corrupt ladies are now being forced by the people of Bangladesh to work for the development of the country and result is out there....

[hanibal]

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I am not changing goal posts you are the one who is refusing to answer my question of listing alternatives and what others have down, as I have said I agree he has not done anything. Now YOU list what others have done or are you going to post another 30 lines of nothing.

Another thing research before you accuse others, in this case read my posts about IK before saying that I support him. I clearly criticized him for his support of taliban. I am not his supporter but do give credit where it is due and do not indulge in criticism for the sake of it which is what this thread is all about

That comment about banning was a cheap shot like the one pakistani policticans indulge in. I thought you were above such things.

mark my words it will happen sooner or later

[Doppleganger]

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Compared to the other forums I have and do post on, this forum is sort of intolerant with people who have rigid views. I guess this does make it a true Pakistani forum unlike those ones that have westernized.

[Captain1]

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I am not changing goal posts you are the one who is refusing to answer my question of listing alternatives and what others have down, as I have said I agree he has not done anything. Now YOU list what others have done or are you going to post another 30 lines of nothing.

Another thing research before you accuse others, in this case read my posts about IK before saying that I support him. I clearly criticized him for his support of taliban. I am not his supporter but do give credit where it is due and do not indulge in criticism for the sake of it which is what this thread is all about

That comment about banning was a cheap shot like the one pakistani policticans indulge in. I thought you were above such things.

This is exactly what is posted:

Don't know if you are even reading it just coming up with same questions again and again...

please last half of the pot # 70 for the answer of alternatives...

As far as your comment regarding what others have done is concerned!! let me ask you if others have done what they supposedly be doing, would the nation would be looking for change or any one could have been successful to fool the nation in name of change or revolution?!!!

My total concern is, the kind of utopia IK is building, the kind false hopes he is giving, the kind of hatred he spreading against the NON-PTIans, he is creating a bigger mess what we are facing today... The frustration which is in the nation, the anger have become the character of the nation, the fear in which the nation is living, and with all this going the thoughts in the PTI circles are that only if there is FREE and FAIR elections, then they will win... and if they lost that would be only because of rigging... and when i and many like me refuted this thought saying that PTI as a political party (despite the support) is not organized to contest any elections being held in near future, it is rejected by anger and emotions saying if they lose they will create a havoc teaching voters a lesson for not voting them...

This is why i am gone all against PTI....IK have not got any ability to control the party ( e.g. every 2 months the CC of any city get dissabled or broken) if PTI looses election ( which by some analyst they will win 4/5 seats and by haroon rasheed 40 at max) they will tear down everything... i hope i am wrong...

Hatred for non-PTIans? If criticism is hate than more power to him.

there was time in 90s when it was said that there is no other option but NS to lead the nation... today it is being said that there is no option but IK to lead the nation... this no option thing does not exist, there is always option, it is we are so blind that we don't want to see beyond out noses, we consider the leader we like a god, we believe that there is nothing but the leader and the world revolves around him... and this is exactly the reason the Bhutto survived this long, this is the reason Sharifs are still there... and this is the reason Imran is out there...

You want options, Ehsan is looking for alternates??? leaders are not potatoes or bananas which can be bought from the grocery store around the corner.. leadership develops and the TAGHOOTI powers normally shut this door by telling them this blunt lie that there is no option, there is no hope and there is no alternate and they make you believe that this one ( doesn't matter how incompetent) is your leader... in 60s it was ayoub, in 80s it was Zia, it 90s it was benazir and in last decade it was Mushy with his great 6 point agenda..

Look around you, Baidar Pakistan is organizing strikes against corruption!! Remember our leader will be the one who will start his fight against corruption and would take initiatives to curb it... for that he won't be needing the spot of PM...

You want to see it happening, see what has happened in Bangladesh, the one of the most corrupt country in the world ruled by two corrupt ladies are now being forced by the people of Bangladesh to work for the development of the country and result is out there....

Nawaz Sharif was leading one of the biggest political party, so that was the 'alternative', Imran Khan is heading a very small party. Everyone else that we see around has been tested already, he has not been there yet so he is considered as an alternate who has already achieved something.

[hanibal]

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This is exactly what is posted:

Hatred for non-PTIans? If criticism is hate than more power to him. Nawaz Sharif was leading one of the biggest political party, so that was the 'alternative', Imran Khan is heading a very small party. Everyone else that we see around has been tested already, he has not been there yet so he is considered as an alternate who has already achieved something.

So you suggest we get another version of NS? the one who has no experience, who is so inconsistent that no body knows what he is upto??? i wonder why PTIans avoid answering it? if there is no one, then any maja saja should be our PM????

[Ali_Syed]

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Maja Saja has already remained pm of Pakistan twice (dreaming for the third term) another similar thing is the pm nowadays

[kakaballi]

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I wonder how we derive this equation?

On what basis he is better? ( In his book he says BB when BB came into power she had no experience for the job, but does he have any experience)

Cleanliness? :P

Does he have good team around him ( His own Columnist (Haroon Rasheed ) says, that even after 15 years, IK have incompetent advisers and IK have got no vision whatsoever...)

No, because our people want to side with parties that would make their future 'secure'. Is it his fault or our technocrats who selfishly stick to corrupt politicians?

On what basis? sorry Ehsan Bhai, but gone those days when so-called leaders use to fool us on ROTI-KAPRA aur MAKAN, today if somebody is talking about revolution and change then he better have grounds for that...

for example?

And as far as Change is Concerned, Ask Americans who voted inexperienced Obama, who turned out to be worse than Bush..

and therefore nobody should ever vote for inexperienced politicians?

please be rational to reach the bottomline, if there is no one available then it is not rational decision to get any maja gama ...

and re-electing Zardari makes perfect rational sense?

Please let us know of an alternative to current crop of politicians who is not a maja gama and can bring revolutionary positive changes to our lives? I would gladly vote for that person.

[hanibal]

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Please let us know of an alternative to current crop of politicians who is not a maja gama and can bring revolutionary positive changes to our lives? I would gladly vote for that person.

Funny that people comeup with this kind of remarks, it is like, a car have broken-down in the middle of the road and the owner is standing next to it and instead of looking for the person with the right skills to fix it, asking every passing-by person to have a look at it and try to fix it, and every passer is applying their wisdom on the car...

BTW how many of you have red Imran's new book??? there is something interesting in it, i wonder PTIans have red it or not...it is related to Benazir that how she didn't have experience for the job wonder if this applies to him as well...

[hanibal]

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To whom Imran is Only way out or last hope blah blah blah

To whom who ( like me) where surprised that WHY Imran khan is so keen to go UK for the launch of the book in midst of all sorts of natural and man-made crisis

here is the answer, this is book IK was so eager to Launch:

Now supporter of IK might say that it was printing error??? and i would say WOW for printing error… it is not a word which have missed by IK before launching it few days back.. it was MAP of Pakistan… which every Pakistani should know like back of his hand… and yes he gave Kashmir to India…

[Captain1]

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So you suggest we get another version of NS? the one who has no experience, who is so inconsistent that no body knows what he is upto??? i wonder why PTIans avoid answering it? if there is no one, then any maja saja should be our PM????

NS had experience before becoming PM I believe.

[hanibal]

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NS had experience before becoming PM I believe.

hence we suffered the consequences.... why need to go to same road again?

[Captain1]

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^ errrr, how is it the 'same road again'?

[hanibal]

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^^ I guess you need to be there to find "How is it" !!!

[Captain1]

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^ no, I am trying to find logic in your words, you said its the same road again when NS was already experienced when he became PM first time while IK has no experience if he becomes a PM.