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man, no one is asking anyone to vote for him (If you consider him the same to the rest you are free to go with the same tested people)...the country deserves people like Zardari and NS to loot them over and over again...but if I have to chose between the two I'd prefer Zardari to NS (because the later is a tagga, he understands the results of his decsions after a few days of his acts)
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You asked where he is and I told you, I am not sure how frequently you want him to go there if his party is already involved in relief work. May be you can suggest him to go there every other day? By the w*ay, where did you find his photo sessions link?*
Actually it was the interview with Mubashir Luqman which provoked me, i mean, almost a month have passed, no news of his party or him there and then suddenly Mubashir Luqman the ex-interim Minister of Mushy, interviews him and try to pose him as Massiah... well that i cannot tolerate...
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Unfortunately, our public truly deserves people like Zardari and Gillani and Rehman Malik....people who are quick to do a photo-op in flood hit areas, who rush to issue a 'muzammat kartay hain' statement every time there is a bomb blast, but dont take any real tangible steps whatsoever to fix the problems at hand.
Blaming Imran Khan for not showing up to the flood hit areas without realizing or understanding what his party is doing as a movement to help the people in question is brainless. Imran answered this very question in a recent interview on one of the news channels. His answer was that me showing my face in these areas without anything tangible isnt going to help the floods recede. He clearly detailed what his party workers were doing in the form of work to help all the flood affectees.
To me, an invisible Imran Khan is far better than an 'always in the news' Zardari or Gillani, or Sharif.
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So you have come down to name calling now, i guess this is not PTI forum where you can abuse or call name to others…
Anyway it is not the voting i am worried about it is the false hopes he is creating in already frustrated youth i am worried, because once he fails to deliver ( which i am sure he will) or he fails to win, then his lovers will be out there re-doing the Karachi model, can you not smell the tension in Lahore, where non-PTI is already seen as achoot?
Anyway, this is what i feared the most and this is what going to happen…when guns are there in political culture then there is no peace for anyone…
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Unfortunately, our public truly deserves people like Zardari and Gillani and Rehman Malik....people who are quick to do a photo-op in flood hit areas, who rush to issue a 'muzammat kartay hain' statement every time there is a bomb blast, but dont take any real tangible steps whatsoever to fix the problems at hand. Blaming Imran Khan for not showing up to the flood hit areas without realizing or understanding what his party is doing as a movement to help the people in question is brainless. Imran answered this very question in a recent interview on one of the news channels. His answer was that me showing my face in these areas without anything tangible isnt going to help the floods recede. He clearly detailed what his party workers were doing in the form of work to help all the flood affectees. To me, an invisible Imran Khan is far better than an 'always in the news' Zardari or Gillani, or Sharif.
Yeah yeah yeah, he said all those but on ground it is workers of Edhi and some other Organizations who are actually doing some relief work, your so-called leader of revolution might have sent a tent or a truck which Gillani, sharif and zardari have done as well...
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Now let me get this straight!
Imran have called himself wind of change, revolutionary leader, the CHANGE, the Last Hope etc etc...
Now what kind of hope he is when he didn't knew what was coming, i am not in any political party but i still knew that victim of the last year floods are still suffering in Sindh... and it need no brainier to assess that this year it is going to be the same, so the so-called leader of change, the last hope, was he sleeping? while we can have these fruit-less and waste of time and energy Dharnas about Drones but he cannot have a Rally asking govt to provide relief to the victims of the flooded area??? and if i am right, then i guess the reason he didn't ask govt about it is because he have his hands dirty as well, Last year IK claimed that once the funds are raised he will send 100s of trucks to each area, well last i knew that the funds where raised by him but then it was all lost, no body knew where it went, yeah few schools were re-build but for that, a separate fund-raising was done, yeah one or may be two villages were re-built but that was part of package... so i think i know why IK never asked govt to do anything about it...
2) Dengue is there because the Punjab Govt from last 6 years is doing nothing about it, and now the population of the virus carrier has grown beyond control... but that was not a secret either... again where is the leader of revolution when the people want him the most, like i said not hope from the so-called status-quo leadership but what about him??? all he winging was, Punjab Govt is forcing Shukat Khanum to reduce the price of the Dengue fever test to Rs 90...
Just tell me that IK is no different than Fazaul Ur Reham, Nawaz Sharif, ZArdari etc, i won't be asking any question about him...
lol you are funny, the PMLN considers itself as the true opposition, is it raising these issues?? IK is not even the opposition, he only has his seat and according to you he does not have any structure in the provinces (thats another thing that there is no PMLN beyound Central Punjab as well)...as far as Dengue virus is concerned, why is it only the problem of Pakistan (infact Punjab), when the khaadim e aala claims to be working so diligently for the masses of the province (in the past there used to be sprays against mosquitos which are now a distant reality, due to Musharraf's local body system at least a few things were reaching the masses, the roads and other infrastructure has reached those areas which used to be a dream before). Sharif's due to their hatred of Musharraf rolled back the local body system. SS does not believe in team work, in punjab its he alone with no health, education and home minister...the situation of the province is in front of anyone...Dengue outbreak was there in Pervaiz Illahi's rule as well but was contained due to the local councils, since now there is no local council the disease is spreading...the only way is to prevent the outbreak, and nothing is being done in that aspect??
Every year the situation will become more and more complex. What can IK do in that regard if the governments dont want to do anything? The Sharif's had a golden chance in Punjab, and if they had done something positive for the province they shouldnt be feeling scared of a no man (Imran Khan). There has not been a single project during SS government like Pervaiz Illahi's 1122, traffic warden system and a few other programs thats the exact reason why they are feeling threatened now.
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^^ Let PML-N consider it self what ever it want, no body give a damn about it nor does people believes that they will bring any change for that matter....it is only they are considered better than PPP and that is all about it..
So if you have to compare PTI with likes of PML and PPP then i must say, i am wasting my time, PTI is nothing but another set of thugs selling what it sells in the market without realizing that it cannot be delivered...
Phir wohi waday, phir wohi tasaliyaaN
Phir wohi Jhoot, phir wohi makr
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Name calling? YOu mean calling NS a tagga? maybe taggas should protest that???
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Now i must tell the PTI workers about this SECRET, which i open to all, it is about Karachi,
From Last 4/5 years, every year, there is threat of cyclone in Arabian sea, 5 years back it hit the coasts of Oman, from past few years Karachi has been lucky because the Cyclone just passes by... consider it warning from Allah All mighty, someday this Cyclone won't simply pass and would hit the city, the city which have population close to 20 million, the city where if it rains for half n hour the drainage gets blocked... what measures PTI have taken to mitigate the risk? they are not in power, but can't hey do anything to get this into the attention of media and govt??? a Sit-IN or something like that?? is that too much?? or may be ISI have not asked him to work on it yet?? I know PPP, MQM, ANP and PMLN have done nothing about it, but what about PTI? are they sleeping as well???
But why am i asking this question from the member of the party which says that since they are not in power they cannot do anything about it...
May Allah help us All ( Ameen)
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Name calling? YOu mean calling NS a tagga? maybe taggas should protest that???
Good to know
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Yes you are right, IK is in charge of Pakistan therefore he should respond to all what youhave mentioned above...
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Yes you are right, IK is in charge of Pakistan therefore he should respond to all what youhave mentioned above...
If a person have no pain for us, he would have no pain even if he gets in power... if he had any feelings, he could have done alot, Look at Anna Hazaray, he was not in charge but he was loyal to his cause and his nation... there are things one can do while out of power but i guess, doing things for people is not on the agenda...
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I have already seen the same thing vis a vis PML and PPP supporters, I have family members who subscribe to both parties and I have seen heated debates when ever some topic is touched. I have seen the fights between PSF and MSF in universities, thats why I believe that what you try to portray is nothing but scare mongering and if democracy gets its foothold properly people will get elected and kicked out of power due to their performance, and keeping in view performance of both the provincial and national governments both dont deserve to be reelected…
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^^ If it had been heated debates then there is nothing to worry about!!! it is part of the game, it is the tension building where HATE is being build between the citizens, the heated debates you are talking about takes place once in a while or during election campaign, once it is over, no body knows which party a particular person belongs to, i don't see that with PTI workers, they are frustrated and young and are rest-less and i am sure they won't hesitate to take law in their hand to teach people a lesson for not voting for the candidate of IK
I''ll end it quoting Iqbal
Mumkin hay kay jisay tu samajhta hay baharaa'N
aurooN key nigaah maiN hu woh mosam ho KhizaaN ka
Shayad kay yeh zameen hay kisi aur jahaaN key
jisay tu samjhta hay falak apnay jahaaN ka
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^ anyways, there have been so many elections to date including bye elections where IK candidates lost but I didnt see any violence...if IK or PTI goes towards violence his party will end there, and that I'm sure Imran knows about it...there's a difference in the political dynamics of Karachi and Lahore
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What would he achieve if he does 'visit' flood affected areas? Get photographed and publicize his 'efforts'?
The criticism would be justified had he any authority or power to do something about floods or dengue and he did nothing about it.
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^ anyways, there have been so many elections to date including bye elections where IK candidates lost but I didnt see any violence...if IK or PTI goes towards violence his party will end there, and that I'm sure Imran knows about it...there's a difference in the political dynamics of Karachi and Lahore
Just check the video link i posted in post number 24...
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.....but i guess, doing things for people is not on the agenda...
Ofcourse not, and that's why he is in Pakistan instead of living happily ever after in UK where he would not have to sacrifice his domestic life either.
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What would he achieve if he does 'visit' flood affected areas? Get photographed and publicize his 'efforts'?
The criticism would be justified had he any authority or power to do something about floods or dengue and he did nothing about it.
What did he achieved when he visited Taseer Family when Shahbaz Taseer was abducted? he visited them for what reason? to have a tea? or what? remember it was same days when people were being left right and center in Karachi... he never visited them...
and then again? what he was going to achieve with all those Dharnas against drones? he was not in power???
There is a tradition in Pakistan, when anyone suffer from any loss his friends, well-wishers, extended family members visit the person, try to do whatever they can and none of them can redo the loss but they are always there... shouldn't we be expecting this from Him???