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This thread was not to debate whether its wrong or right for inter-racial marriages to take place.
It was simply to ask whether you've noticed a trend in women appreciating the desi man, despite all his many many imperfections.
Focus, focus.
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What I have observed here n the US..and I was talking to my husband about that too...is that mostly the desi guys marry mostly the red neck trailer trash women for the green card bit...or some of them marry their class mates from college which I understand ..they r in the same mindset..Geeks!!...and the girls that I have seen with goras ...the goras are usually really goodlooking ones...some though the white trash...but mostly clean cut ones...then again my observation:D
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maybe its u who needs to focus…
maybe the “imperfections” r just a part of ur own imagination…
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For me it was abt being married to a decent human being. As many of u know my hubs a white convert and i wouldnt have had it any other way.
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Wow! This thread is ridiculous!
On behalf of the other "white chicks" here (I'm not even going to get into the offensiveness of this term), I have to say that I don't think any of us set out to marry a desi man. I married my husband because I was seeking for a good, honest, and religious man to marry, and we connected with one another.
I do have to say that if I had known more about Punjabi culture, I probably would have been inclined towards someone from a different background. This in no way reflects on my husband, whom I love dearly, but on the way that I have been treated by his khandaan and other desis (mostly FOBs) who are so deeply offended that a Pakistani man could marry a gori that they feel it necessary to bother us about it.
Some women find dark complexioned men handsome, and some women are attracted to the blonde Nordic type. I'm not sure it relates at all to some of the more bizarre reasons I've read in this thread, such as a low divorce rate. No one goes into a marriage with the idea of divorce, not even we godless westerners with no morals.
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armughal, shame on you. you have a wife. do not ask other ladies on GS to focus on you.
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Generalizations, I know, but I am finding nonetheless that nonmuslim girls are just going CRAZY over desi guys.
So there is this paki kid in my class, and I swear I just talked to a few girls just now, and they were babbling on and on about him. It was pretty clear that they thought he was just GREAT!
Well anyway, these things make me partially giggle. I just find it funny when some non-brown chic is gaga over a brown guy.
What are your opinions on it? Have you noticed it? Is brown in?
i dont like this hugely lumped grouping of desis, but are desi men more oriented towards family life, on average perhaps, though I've seen some desi women (Indian judging by the features) doing some rather obnoxious things here. Makes me think desi women (or Indian women, havent really had much experience of either I confess) aren't all they drone on about. Bloody aishwarya rai wannabees. Change your attitudes!
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In the US, this definitely doesn't seem to be a trend. I'm a gori, my boyfriend is Pakistani, and I can't even begin to describe the racist nonsense that he has to deal with on a regular basis around here. People call him a terrorist and are either afraid of him for no reason or ridicule him. He is a very friendly and outgoing person, but when he tries to strike up conversations with new people, they are often extremely rude. Some of my family and friends thought I was crazy for going out with him and would make comments like "Does he own a gas station or a 7-11?" or "Yeah, he can come over for dinner, but make sure he doesn't come with a bomb strapped to his back." Sadly, I don't know of many tolerant white people around here, which is a shame because none of the pakistani or muslim people I know deserve such treatment.
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a bit off topic, but empress, its sickening that you and your boyfriend has to go through that. i'm so thankful i'm in canada! when 9/11 happened, it was hectic here too, but on a much, much smaller scale than in the US. generally, i find people are more tolerant here and come into much more contact with different cultures (at least in the big cities).
amana: i completely agree with what you're saying. desis are just as much to blame for propogating and supporting stereotypes (such as godless westerners who love getting divorced), as gora people are of doing the same to desis. its kind of ridiculous really- when i told my folks about my FH, they had the EXACT same image of his folks that his folks had of mine. it was retarded, actually. his mother kept trying to feed me pork (she stopped after the engagement), mine kept asking me what i would do when he left me (as all goras leave their partners, evidently. eyeroll)
it comes down to sheer ignorance and that comes through lack of exposure. both sets of parents have been in canada for a long time and yet neither really made friends outside their own cultural circle. what a shame.
as for desi guys and gora girls- every single female first cousin my mom has, is married to a gora guy. we have no gora girls in our family though- i find that so interesting. and actually, my experience has always shown desi guys to be the kind who date one kind of girl (a gori), and marry another (desi village girl chosen by mum). i feel horrible for all the goris who genuinely fall for those idiots. and i think that stems from a kind of "us vs. them" mentality that some desis carry around- where "them" is anyone non desi/pakistani and can therefore be treated like **** because it doesn't matter. goras all lack morals, are fond of sleeping around and getting divorced anyway. whatever.
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^^ After all this, why "whatever" at the end?
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Paki men don’t have feelings & never fall in love, we’re all robots 
Exterminate, exterminate! 
What a one sided, fictional, unobjective load of pompous drivel 
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Do not worry about losers; they are not worth your time. People who generalize or put people in boxes of label are sad and wretched to say the least. A guy who sticks around despite this much racism seems serious about the relationship.
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i was speaking from personal experience, and nowhere did i mention paki men were incapable of emotion. i just said in MY experience, they’ve mostly all been asses. clearly, you’re above and beyond. good for you!
what i meant was, “whatever” to those people who think that about goras.
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A white friend of mine told me that she'd prefer a brown guy over a white one simply because they are very family oriented and also because an average white guy decides to settle down finally after he has been with 8-10 women for some reason thats their way of thinking and just like any other normal girl the white girls want committment at one go if everything is fine - while on the other hand the white guys want brown girls because they too think that all brown women are very family orientated and good housemakers - us browns normally go on thinking that white people dont hesitate in participating in sexual activities maybe thats why the opposite sex (brown) are interested in them (well thats what most of the browns i have talked about say) but its just that the whites want to satisfy their partners (if they love them) in every which way so that their relationship is stable ... a guy i know has married a white girl and she is so happy with him that she fasts strictly, she prays five times a day as well and along with that she keeps her mother in law happier then the other brown daughter in law does so i guess the white people like our desi traditions and values but because of their own traditions i.e. less modesty, less clothes etc makes them look like oh my god .... yada yada yada.
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I wasnt on about your personal experiences which may or may not be fictional, or which might be fictional but you just fail to bring out the emotions in others (as a lot of people I’ve found to be like this (in my experience !). My point was this. Your opinion based on your experience was that Paki men use Gori women to play with their emotions, yet you fail to realize the opposite could equally be true that gori women also play or use Paki men (it does after all take two to Tango). I suspect your post was based around a bitter, rabidly irrational view of the world around themselves from a selfish feminist perspective
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erm, ok, how about you read what i’m saying instead of blindly flaming my posts? literacy is a good thing! 
guys and girls both play each other, no doubt. but as i said, from what i’ve seen FIRSTHAND thru mixed relationships, its usually the guys.
and FYI my experiences aren’t fictional because i’m not a liar and i don’t appreciate being called one or having my opinions dismissed. i don’t need to lie to evoke emotions in people, i speak about what i’ve observed. either you get it, or you don’t. clearly, you don’t.
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guys and girls both play each other, no doubt. but as i said, from what i've seen FIRSTHAND thru mixed relationships, its usually the guys.
The fact that YOU fail to see girls playing with guys feelings in relationships is due to YOUR personal blind ignorance of it. Just because you have never seen it, it does not mean it does not exist, and if you think out of your self-victimized feminist mindset, you will realize the pendulum does indeed swing both ways.
Just for clarity, here is what you said, and yes it is self centred giberrish what you wrote (or probably belched is a more accurate description of it):
and actually, my experience has always shown desi guys to be the kind who date one kind of girl (a gori), and marry another (desi village girl chosen by mum). i feel horrible for all the goris who genuinely fall for those idiots. and i think that stems from a kind of "us vs. them" mentality that some desis carry around- where "them" is anyone non desi/pakistani and can therefore be treated like *** because it doesn't matter. goras all lack morals, are fond of sleeping around and getting divorced anyway. whatever.*
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and FYI my experiences aren't fictional because i'm not a liar and i don't appreciate being called one or having my opinions dismissed. i don't need to lie to evoke emotions in people, i speak about what i've observed. either you get it, or you don't. clearly, you don't.
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I didnt say you were a liar or you were not one. I have no opinion of this, nor any reason to want to know whether it is true or not. The possibility exists, as with any "personal experience quoted on the internet". This was not the point, and you can try and change things as much as you want, but it will not hide the fact that you have a narrow minded, bitterness ravaged mentality best kept under lock & key before you pollute other people's pure minds.
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oh please. i acknowledged what you said - that girls and guys both play around on each other but in my experience its mostly the guys, so wtf then? what is your issue? you're going around in circles here. what my experiences are, you haven't had, and vice versa, and thats fine.
apart from that, i don't get what you're saying other than *****ing about my post. make a point that doesn't slam my mentality or my thinking or my so-called "bitter feminist victimised" mindset. i ain't calling you a cheating, heart-breaking, a-hole, now am i? how about you not get so personal too?
from your previous post:
telling someone their experiences may or may not be fictional, or that they're telling stories but just not in a very good way, IS accusing them of lying. if you're that suspicious that you can't take someones word for what they're saying, then what're you doing on a messageboard, bro? everyone here could be making stuff up according to that reasoning.
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My point, which you still fail to see and acknowledge, is that you are a blind, ignorant brainwashed feminist parrot. You claim to "acknowledge" what I said, then nonchalantly woft on that your experience though shows that it is one way. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT? You admit that gori girls play with Paki guys, and Paki guys play with gori girls, then you say your experience tells you differently. This should tell you that your experience is WRONG (since apparently you admitted twice now that YOU KNOW it's wrong), yet you still belch on about the same point. My advice is go do some exerise, replace your last pair of load-induced semi collapsed heels, and then see things from a reasoned and rational perspective.