Which is worse:
knowingly committing a sin, and feeling guilty for it but still continuing…
or committing that sin but not accepting that it is a sin, that in fact it’s “alright” to keep doing that sin?
Re: which is worse
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*Originally posted by Sara516: *
Which is worse:
knowingly committing a sin, and feeling guilty for it but still continuing.....
or committing that sin but not accepting that it is a sin, that in fact it's "alright" to keep doing that sin?
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both r worse.but according to your question the 2nd one is more worst than the 1st.
Re: which is worse
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*Originally posted by Sara516: *
Which is worse:
knowingly committing a sin, and feeling guilty for it but still
continuing .....
or committing that sin but not accepting that it is a sin, that in fact it's "alright" to ** keep doing that sin** ?
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Isnt that one and the same?
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
Isnt that one and the same?
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i guess you could say that..physically it's the same, but the thinking is different. one feels guilt, whereas the other doesnt....
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
Isnt that one and the same?
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Not quite.
I've met Muslims who were doing wrong, admitted that they themselves believed what they were doing was without doubt wrong, but continue to do it anyway.
And I've also met Muslims who were doing wrong, but refused to admit that it was wrong.
depends what u classify a sin..
in the second situation, the person may not be aware that its a sin.. or doesnt believe it is hence no guilt.
Dependant on interpretation
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*Originally posted by sadzzz: *
depends what u classify a sin..
in the second situation, the person may not be aware that its a sin.. or doesnt believe it is hence no guilt.
Dependant on interpretation
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Well, just to name an example: eating non-halal foods.
Some say that it's alright to have a Big Mac every now and again because of some reason or other.
Others, like myself, feel guilty if/when we do :(
Sara if you feel guilty isnt it a bit pointless to keep eating haram stuff? It would only be different if you do something about it due to the guilt and the realization that you are doing wrong.
maddy-- to me its similar.If you do wrong and realize it but keep doing it---- and if you do wrong but refuse to admit that it is wrong.
^ well that again is interpretation...
ok, so if the person was having bacon, id be like "u ok dude?"
but when it comes down to ur example.. everyone has their own view on it. If u feel bad about it.. then simple, dont eat it
i know many people who say "Bismiallah" and eat it...
The topic under discussion was about feeling guilty and not ending a sinful act as opposed to not admitting the sinful act.To me they're still the same.
As for halal meat, we know that it is halal when Allahs name is used upon the animals slaughter. Im not sure exactly how an animal that has been slaughtered by any other method- can become halal when one recites Bismillah.However, Allah knows best.
^ hmm i thought the second scenario was about not admitting to the sinful act?
again, thats ur interpretation MQ. Im not gonna get into the argument of halal and haram :)
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
The topic under discussion was about feeling guilty and not ending a sinful act as opposed to not admitting the sinful act.To me they're still the same.
As for halal meat, we know that it is halal when Allahs name is used upon the animals slaughter. Im not sure exactly how an animal that has been slaughtered by any other method- can become halal when one recites Bismillah.However, Allah knows best.
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Actually, I'm going to diverge from my original topic, coz this is another question i've been wondering.
Exactly how "halal" can something be considered if in the midst of spewing obscenities and lewd/crude remarks, the butcher takes the name of Allah?
They're both bad but personally I think the second one is worse. One thing that riles me is when people try to change Islam to suit their needs. At least in the first example the person is accepting responsibility. The second one is more cowardly as you can't accept that what you're doing is wrong and you try to cover up your guilt by convincing yourself that its ok. I think all of us know deep inside what is wrong and what is right.
Islam can't be changed.
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*Originally posted by Fita: *
They're both bad but personally I think the second one is worse. One thing that riles me is when people try to change Islam to suit their needs. At least in the first example the person is accepting responsibility. The second one is more cowardly as you can't accept that what you're doing is wrong and you try to cover up your guilt by convincing yourself that its ok. I think all of us know deep inside what is wrong and what is right.
Islam can't be changed.
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Yeah I think the second one is worse as well. To me, the first is a "bad" muslim and the second is "liberal".....I think liberal is worse but I cudn't find a better word to describe the first than "bad"
I would call the first one a 'weak muslim' and the second one simply a 'knob'.
Fits perfectly methinks.
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*Originally posted by Fita: *
I would call the first one a 'weak muslim' and the second one simply a 'knob'.
Fits perfectly methinks.
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weak is good
i prefer liberal over knob though
both r as bad a seach other. and for those muslims who eat a big mac or a double cheeseburger now and then should know better, reciting bismillah over such haram food isn't acceptable.
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*Originally posted by Sara516: *
Actually, I'm going to diverge from my original topic, coz this is another question i've been wondering.
Exactly how "halal" can something be considered if in the midst of spewing obscenities and lewd/crude remarks, the butcher takes the name of Allah?
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It is perfectly halal, if the meat is Zabiha in islamic maner(which is not complicated at all).The words(obscenities and lewd/crude remarks) of the butcher is his personal sin.
Reg. First question,,
If one knows that what he doing is a sin, then at one time or another he may repent. and ask forgivness from Allah, for whatever he may have done. And may be Allah forgive him.
Now if someone does not consider some sin to be sin. Then the above situation may not arise at all !!! :(