Which Caliphs Family Contributed Most to Islam

Brothers....
Earth is round, I really believe now...as we are still standing there where we had started our journey from

Again for all Shia Brothers...you want to know the participation of the families of first three caliphs, don't you

I would again stress
Who were those amzing personalities who humiliated the crowns of Iranian and Roman Empires

Who conqured
Iran
Iraq
Syria
Roam
and Egypt

Who were these people, which families do they come from??????

One simple questions to the Sunnis:
Do Sunnis believe that the Prophet made mistakes and was then corrected by his companions?
Simple Question. Give a straight answer.

no and u r point is ...?


To do in life is to appreciate it. To live life is to lose it. I dont know what I am saying so I will stop saying it.

My Sunni friend said that the Prophet made mistakes and was corrected by his companions. That was the stupidest thing I ever heard, so I was wondering if other Sunnis beleived in that.

..messengers of God are infallible as ey have to transmit Gods word to people.... but in common life they can make peety mistakes as all human make..but it doesnt deal with religion ... so I believe only messengers of shia brothers think their 12 Imams are infallible I respect but dont agree with them.. plus I would be interested to know how many of those claimned that they were infallible?
I really admire religious knowledge of Hazrat Ali and Jaffer Sadiq..so did they ever said they were infallible..

Islam is completed does not mean that this duniya is completed also. Allahs word (Quran) was sent down in it's entirety via Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). It is this, and the prophets Sunnah which we have as Islam. Anything that happened afterwards does not contribute to Islam - it only contributes to history.

if you believe that the prophet(saw) is falliable...then first and foremost...prove it and secondly...if he is falliable...y do u follow his sunnah, as sunni's claim he said when he was passing away
"i am leaving two weighty things...the quran and my sunnah, keep close to them and u shall never go astray"

when he actually said the "quran and my family...."

and another thing, plz don't turn this into a thread about the masoomeen's infalliablity...this thread is about THE CALIPHS

"There as many ideas in the minds of men and women as there are stars in the sky, it is your job to hold on to one and make it come true"
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[This message has been edited by Ahl_e_Sunnah (edited July 19, 2001).]

what is the difference in 'ghalti' and 'gunah' ?

'ghalti' = a mistake made, but no loss to his deeds/rewards i.e. you start ur journey in night, ur intention was to go to North, but somehow u made mistake and started heading east (or any other direction for that matter)... now, is this mistake going to remove your 'rewards/sawab' ??? NO, other example would be you start driving car but forgot to turn your headlights ON (remember its a dangerous mistake at night time), but would this cause loss to your 'rewards/sawab'... heck NO.

'gunah' = a mistake that degrades/reduces your 'rewards/sawab' i.e. you lie, kill innocent muslim, cheat, etc.

To my knowledge, the Sunni beleif is that Prophets can make 'ghalti', but not 'gunah'.

wallahu aalam bis-sawab.


We oughta be Changez like, don't we?

[This message has been edited by Changez_like (edited July 19, 2001).]

Islam is a complete religion sent to us by God in the form of Quran, though His Messenger, the Prophet Mohammed and does not require any contribution from any one including the Prophet.

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Originally posted by Shah Jahan:
**Cooldude,

Islam By all mean is Compleated!!

But if this were truly the case why the Heck did qayamat not come with the Prophets Death? Islam compleate=world Compleate!!!

What would there be left for Humans if everything is truly compleated.that means there is still something that has to happen(or pass)before qayamat can come!!!

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Mr Shah Jahan, I think you are forgetting the Quranic ayat
... al-youma akmaltu deena lakum ...

or do you have any other interpretation of this ayat?

No where Allah said that as soon as Islam is completed Qayamat will come. or have u heard of any such???


We oughta be Changez like, don't we?