Where is Heaven and Hell?

lazy_daisy · February 6, 2006, 11:15am

physically…

from perhaps an Islamic viewpoint…

danial · February 6, 2006, 11:54am

Re: Where is Heaven and Hell?

Where is the sky, is there a sky, is there 7 of em?

Lo0natic · February 6, 2006, 12:14pm

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HEAVEN AT 2 PUB ..
HELL ON THE OTHER SIDE SITTING AT HOME GROUNDED.

Sharaabi · February 6, 2006, 12:34pm

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up there

yes

Zakk · February 6, 2006, 1:13pm

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I am not sure of the exact location..but i think we are halfway there

LastOfTheDinosaurs · February 6, 2006, 1:16pm

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There is no such think. All these things are figment of human imagination.

danial · February 6, 2006, 1:59pm

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up where?

i really need a proof.

Mamaof3 · February 6, 2006, 2:18pm

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actually I'd like to see some good answers to this question also....my almost 4yr old has been asking me "Mama, where's heaven?" because Nana is there and so is "Oscar kitty" and "baby squeal"....what to tell him????

nia_khan · February 6, 2006, 2:26pm

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You guys have to read "Maut ka Manzar"! It has alot of answers to so many questions which we all think about every now and then and almost every line sends a shiver down your spine.

If i am not mistaking they do have english version of it now... Anyone knows?

ahmadjee · February 6, 2006, 4:23pm

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Lazy Dee, the idea that heaven is up there somewhere is a notion grounded in it being physical. Just like the verses that talk of heaven having streams of milk and honey are taken literally and physically present. But if a person’s spirit is what ascends to heaven or rots in hell, it cannot be anything physical. Have you ever seen a soul burning? Probably felt it and that burning is nothing to do with any physical fire.

So, heaven and hell are all around us, they aren’t physical in the sense our body is. Just like God is everywhere, on the 7th heaven and at the same time closer to us than our minds.

danial · February 6, 2006, 4:45pm

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is there a sky?

Sharaabi · February 6, 2006, 6:29pm

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and you will get one :)

sooner or later...

musicmaniac · February 6, 2006, 6:39pm

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There is both hell and heaven which offcourse can not be seen well offcourse not right now. We cant have a physical location of it just like can u really prove the color black is really black. Its basically a believe we got which has been talked about in QUrran. Anyway i just know that there is gonna be a different heaven for everyone according to their likes and dislikes :)

KARAKUSH · February 6, 2006, 6:51pm

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LOL

after the proof has been seen there will b no need to repent, no tauba will be accepted.

danial · February 6, 2006, 7:09pm

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thank you for your answer, :k:

danial · February 6, 2006, 7:18pm

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http://www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/meraj.asp

http://www.sunna.info/Lessons/islam_365.html

lazy_daisy · February 6, 2006, 8:30pm

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Thankyou all for your input, and especially to Ahmadjee

Ansoon · February 6, 2006, 9:18pm

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Lazy_daisy, think of it this way.. is light really just absence of darkness? is good really absence of evil?

Allah has created us and knows what is the easiest way to make us understand a concept. Therefore, HE gave us humans the ability to relate things. We relate good with heaven and bad with hell. Its human nature to ask for physical evidence. But have you ever seen Allah ?? do you believe HE exists? if you believe Allah exists then you should also belive that their is a heaven and a hell.

just my two cents..

lazy_daisy · February 6, 2006, 9:24pm

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ansoon thankyou, but its not a matter of belief

Its just a matter of where is it?

goodtalking2u · February 7, 2006, 1:58am

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Islamic Paradise is a physical place. That is why Allah has to collect all the dust of the dead people to punish or reward them. That makes even less sense when we know that we constantly renew the elements that compose our body..

It seems that the prophet had no idea of the spiritual reality of man that is independent from the material world. Allah's rewards are hoories, wine, honey, gardens, mansions, cloths with gold embroidery and other material objects. These are all material rewards. What is the use of all these for human spirit? His punishment is also physical: fire. Heaven, in Islam, is the place where believers will be reclining under the shade of the trees, eating and drinking exquisite wines, and engaging in sex with virgins.Surah 55:54-46]"They will recline on carpets whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the fruit of the gardens will be near. In them will be (Maidens), Chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched (virgins)."

Good deeds have no merits; Belief in Allah and his messenger is the only requisite to inherit this materialistic paradise. Even Christians will not be spared.

In one place one is lead to believe that the people of the scriptures, i.e. the Jews and the Christians are saved,

al-Hajj 22:17] Lo! those who believe (this revelation), and those who are Jews, and the Sabaeans and the Christians and the Magians and the idolaters - Lo! Allah will decide between them on the Day of Resurrection. Lo! Allah is Witness over all things.

Then again, this is contradicted by another verse.
[al-Ma'idah 5:14] And with those who say: "Lo! we are Christians," We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefore We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.
The same is said of the Jews (Q.10:93). So don't be surprised to see Mother Theresa burning in the Hell while Khomeni and Saddam Hussein who believed in Allah and his messenger sitting under the shade of a tree with a pretty hoory at their right side and another at their left, sipping from the chilled wine in Paradise.

The concept of the life after death in Islam is very much similar to the Jehowa's Witnesses' concept of the other world. Jehowa Witnesses believe that after the death, the deceased has no consciousness until the last day when he is risen from death and if found a believer would inherit the Earth and would live in a terrestrial Paradise forever. This is how Quran and Hadith explain the life after death. However, this subject is foggy for most of the Muslims. They have their personal ideas about it that often contradict the above what Quran and the hadithes teach about the life after death.