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^^Bernard Lewis says maybe. Iran is due to give it's answer to the world on it's nuclear plans that day. They cannot help but be emboldened by Hizbullah. It reaches a head on this day. What will happen, who knows. Iran is what, eight hours ahead of the East Coast?
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why should iran attack israel when they have hezbullah to the job for them. they've done thier part training hezbullah. Apparently, israel's hands are too full to take panga with iran, so really its a great opportunity for iran to gets its fingers in the pie, but i dont think they will, not yet anyway.
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Looking at what Hezbollah is doing to the well trained and highly armed IDF due you really think they will take panga with a proper army.
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The apocalypse, the end of days, the hidden Imam…
Some real conspiracy theories here:
Apocalypse Now?
Is Iran planning a cataclysmic strike for August 22?
By Joel C. Rosenberg
Is Iran planning an apocalyptic strike against Israel and/or the United States for August 22? If so, what should the U.S. do to protect Americans and our ally? Such questions are worrying a growing number of officials in the White House, at the CIA, and at the Pentagon, and for good reason.
As a devout Shiite Muslim, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is telling colleagues in Tehran that he believes the end of the world is rapidly approaching. He also believes that the way to hasten the coming of the Islamic Messiah known as the “Hidden Imam” or the “Mahdi” is to launch a catastrophic global jihad, first against Israel (the “little Satan”) and then against the U.S. (the “Great Satan”). What’s more, Ahmadinejad is widely believed to be pursuing nuclear weapons that would give him the ability to carry out his apocalyptic religious views. Some experts even speculate that Iran may already have several atomic bombs and the means to deliver them.
In recent days, Ahmadinejad and his advisers have said that Iran will answer the world regarding the future of its nuclear program on August 22. That happens to be a very significant date for Muslims: It is the anniversary of the supposed “night flight” by Mohammed from Saudi Arabia to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem to heaven and back again. There is a worry that Ahmadinejad is planning some sort of apocalyptic attack as his ‘“response” on August 22. If so, time is short and the clock is ticking.
It is hard for many Americans to imagine an Iranian leader (or any other world leader) actually trying to bring about the end of the world by launching a nuclear attack to destroy millions of Jews and Christians. But it is precisely this type of attack that I wrote about in my recent political thrillers, The Ezekiel Option and The Copper Scroll. One of my goals was to help people understand this brand of radical Islamic thinking and its implications for Western civilization. On page 358 of The Ezekiel Option, a fictional Islamic character insists that Israel is going to be “wiped off the face of the map forever.” Five months after Option was published last June, Ahmadinejad gave a speech vowing to wipe Israel “off the map” forever. In the novel, Iran forms a military alliance with Russia and starts buying state-of-the-art weaponry from Moscow to accomplish its apocalyptic objectives. Last December, fiction again became reality, when Iran signed a $1 billion deal with Russia to buy missiles and others weapons.
Muslims are not the only ones who have apocalyptic end-times views, of course. As an evangelical Christian from an Orthodox Jewish heritage, my novels are based on a number of “end times” prophecies that the Bible says will be fulfilled in “the last days.” For example, the Hebrew Prophet Ezekiel — writing 2,500 years ago — described a future Middle Eastern war to annihilate Israel that is known today by Bible scholars as the “War of Gog and Magog.” Jews and Christians who take Ezekiel’s prophecies seriously believe that at the last minute the God of Israel will supernaturally intervene to defeat Israel’s enemies in this war. By contrast, the Muslim version of the “War of “Gog and Magog“ found in the Koran concludes with Muslims winning. The Ezekiel Option and The Copper Scroll imagine how such prophecies could play themselves out in modern times. But suddenly this is no longer the stuff of fiction. Ahmadinejad actually seems intent on launching the “War of Gog and Magog.”
** Bernard Lewis of Princeton University, arguably the world’s foremost expert on Middle Eastern history, wrote an essay for the Wall Street Journal last Tuesday warning that Ahmadinejad’s apocalyptic objectives could lead to a “cataclysmic” attack on August 22. Lewis observed that there it is not possible to say with any certainty that such an attack is planned, but he felt compelled to explain to Americans just how dangerous Ahmadinejad’s thinking is, especially in light of Islamic, Jewish, and Christian “end times” theology, such as the “War of Gog and Magog” and “Armageddon.”** How, Lewis asked, can you negotiate with a man who believes it is his religious duty and mission to bring about the end of the world? How can you deter a man who wants to die and go to paradise, but believes he won’t actually die in such a war because Allah is on his side to kill millions of “infidels”?
Lewis’s warning was prudent and needed, as was his careful explanation of the apocalyptic thinking driving the Iranian leadership at present. But Lewis’s conclusion was puzzling. He writes:
"How then can one confront such an enemy, with such a view of life and death?” he wrote. “Some immediate precautions are obviously possible and necessary. In the long term, it would seem that the best, perhaps the only hope is to appeal to those Muslims, Iranians, Arabs and others who do not share these apocalyptic perceptions and aspirations, and feel as much threatened, indeed even more threatened, than we are. There must be many such, probably even a majority in the lands of Islam. Now is the time for them to save their countries, their societies and their religion from the madness of MAD [the Cold War policy of Mutual Assured Destruction]. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NWNmMWM5MjhhMzVjZTM0ZmI1ZmJlYzAxNzU3NDEyMWI=&c=1
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i think that myth of a powerful amy has dissipated in to thin air. it was merely a smokescreen.
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what utter bullsh1t of an excuse. No shia believes you have to launch a catastrophic global jihad inorder for the Imam to arrive, not even ahmadinijaad. what an ignorant writer.
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^^ A catastrophe or an apoclypse will happen without an announcementt...for sure... :)
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damn man this ahmednijad idiot sounds like jerry falwell and other such preachers I have recently been checking out on TV since the recent warfare..
ullu kay pathay
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There is no place in the world for people who fear...fear only Allah. Period!
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I agree, the big difference being Falwell, Roberston and those nutjobs don't rule a huge country with access to nukes.
I wish Ahmadinejad would take a one way horse flight to the nether world.
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Why would Iran attack Israel and why would it even survive a week if it does so? Do people on either side plan things before starting a war?
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Tell me what is the point of this so called battle between hizbulla and zionists?
What are their objectives?
First of all, since when did you became the judge of who lacks Iman & who doesn't?
Secondly, the goal of Hezbollah has always been to defend their people, as they are doing right now. The capture of Israeli soldiers was aimed to have Israel release the illegal prisoners in Israeli jails. This objective (of Hebollah) failed.
Israel's objective was to send out a message to the Arab world, telling the whos the boss, through means of bombing civilian infrastructure, murdering people, and expecting little or no resistance. The most critical part of this objective (of Israel) also failed.
Thirdly, if you want to understand the real objectives of the Zionists, read & understand Thalmud. Read how they treat goyim's. They are the chosen people of God, hence they are allowed to treat goyim (others) unequally.
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Well, I don't need to know from thalmud what the objectives of these Kafir Jews are. I believe in Quran and I know that these Kuffar are all time Enemies of us and I can see what attrocities they are causing to us.
My point is very simple.
What would be the end point of this tug of war between hizbulla and israel?
Or what is the end of clashes between Palestinians and Israel?
If you live in the real world then you know that nothing is going to happen except more blood shed of Palestinians or Lebanese and more weak stand for them in the middle East.
It is the most likely that this war between hizbulla and israel would come to an end with an agreement between them as usual but this time International (Kafir) forces would occupy South of Lebanon, giving Israel a good Buffer Zone.
This ultimately is going to happen, as the current situation tells so. Unless there happens a miracle. But I remember someone's saying that if you want to see a miracle then be a miracle...
Anyways, the situation is going to be in favour of Kafir Zionists and Christians in the Middle East, but what is annoying to me is that this would happen on cost of a great blood shed of innocent Lebanese Muslims.
And this is something which tells me that what hizbulla or its supporters are doing is all in vain and it is causing more and more blood shed of Muslims only.
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but the scary part is that these TV nutjobs have a huge influence in US politics now, whats that moron on 700 club…isnt he like the grand poobah for many right winger politicians .
and yeah I agree ahmednijad needs to just go away..just like these lame evangelists and their followers.
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Ahmedi Najad and past Iranian Leaders are like our double faced politicians who play politics in the name of issues. They know that Palestinian issue is a hot cake, selling it would be so beneficial, therefore they sell it and buy popularity among fools. But those who have an insight and good vision of the world, know that even Khomeni bought arms and weapons from Israel during Iran Iraq War and Iranians have tried on and off to have secret relations with Israel for financial purposes.
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Which other "muslim" country is brave enough to speak up against the Zionist regime and the attrocities being committed against Palestine and its people? Which country has consistently held this stance? How is "selling" the Palestinian issue beneficial for Iran? I don't get it... I mean it's obvious that outside of Syria, no Arab nation has support for Iran because of its majority shia population. Too bad AmeriKKKan puppet regimes like Sauds, Kuwaitis and Egyptians don't have the balls to "sell" the issue to their people. Wouldn't you think their people (i.e. Arabs ethincally) would "buy" it more?
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But those who have an insight and good vision of the world, know that even Khomeni bought arms and weapons from Israel during Iran Iraq War and Iranians have tried on and off to have secret relations with Israel for financial purposes.
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Please! What about Pakistan? Pakistan and the Israeli Secret Service Mossad trained the Taliban IN PAKISTAN to send the ignorant group to Afghanistan. This is a fact. The project was funded by Saudi Arabia and the CIA. We are still suffering from this huge mistake, because it led to spinoff groups like the Sipahe Sahaba which inturn created serious civil and sectarian divide within Pakistan.
As for your claim of Khomeini buying arms and weapons from Israel, that is the first time I've ever heard that. I would love if you could provide me with some reference material regarding that, because from what I know, during the Iran-Iraq war, the U.S. supplied both Iran and Iraq with weapons (intially), and then armed Iraq more and supplied them with biological weapons, which Saddam ended up using on his own people.
As for your attempt to decipher the "aim" or "objective" of Hezbollah... there have been numerous attempts by other members of this message board that have clearly outlined, using logic, the objective of their mission-- but you happen to be so incredibly bias and arrogant towards anything Shia that you fail to accept it.
Why don't you explain to me the objective and aim of your beloved Al Qaeda... the defenders of this "apparent" "Sunni" "Jihad".
(I put Sunni in quotes because they are obviously not Sunni, but rather Salafi).
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Proof, that Talibans were raised or trained by Mossad and CIA?
Here you are:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=225931
This thread is about Iran, so I will discuss stuff about Iran. Or not?
A shia can’t decide who is a sunni or who is not.
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These American puppets (Arab States) are not supporting Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq but shias are.
Why?
May I know why Khomeni bought weapons from Israel while Israel is the biggest Enemy of Iranians, as they claim?
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Surely, you are misguided.
If you don't want to know the objectives of these Jews, then why did you ask us in the last page?
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A shia can't decide who is a sunni or who is not.
I will provide you with proof of the creation of the Taliban very soon. I'm trying to gather as many legitimate sources as possible, rather than relying only on one speculation (i.e. the link you have given me).
And buddy. A shia can't decide who is sunni or who is not? I know very well what a sunni is- one who follows the sunnat of our beloved Prophet (PBUH). True followers of the sunnat do not committ fitnah and hate on others. True followers of the sunnah have respect for all beliefs and are not hate mongers.
True followers of the sunnah do not have deep rooted hate for "jews" as you do. True muslims only object to those that are enemies of Islam, which in this case happens to be the Zionist regime.
You are obviously a misguided person. I keep re-iterating the fact that you have deep-rooted hate for shia's, because I find this to be both disturbing and damaging. I pray to Allah that he guides you InshAllah.
Also, this seems to be going back and forth with absolutely no progress... so my last post to you regarding this matter will be the sources of proof showing that Mossad and CIA along with the Pakistani government helped create the Taliban.
Lastly, I have had many encounters with your group of people... and I try very hard to emulate the teachings of the Prophet (PBUH) by loving all followers of Allah and his book... but your group of people are so nasty and hate filled, it's quite disgusting. I'm sorry if I am making this generalization, but I must let you know that you are so blindsided by thinking that you are spreading the "truth" when in reality you are only ruining the beautiful religion that the Prophet(PBUH) brought us.
Can't you learn to love rather than hate? Is it that hard?
As for distinguishing between Sunni's and Wahabi's... Majority of my friends are Sunni's and they happen to be the most loving, caring, and progressive thinkers I know. Some even more than most Shia's I know... as for Wahabi's, they don't dare talk to me because my name is "Abbas" and they assume that everything I do is "Shirk".