When people become more religious...

When their knowledge of Islam increases, and they take a few steps forward to better themselves as Muslims, is it justified for them to think they are better than people who are less religious?

My sister Alhamdullilah in the last few years has become quite religious, reads about Islam, attends classes, learns the Quraan and is actively involved with the local Muslim community and the masjid. We were having a chat the last time I visited her and she was telling me that when one becomes more religious, you feel like youre elevated to another level, and that its a real battle for most people to maintain their humility and to view others less religious as equals, as one progresses as a Muslim. For example, when a hijabi girl looks at a non-hijabi girl, she might as well be thinking, she looks so behuda astaghfirullah, may God show her the right path!!

When I read some of the posts and threads on the forums, I cant help but think that some people think they are better than others because they believe they are better Muslims.

Is it Islamically right to believe you are better than someone if you are more religious? I remember a close family friend of ours, a very well read Uncle said, a Muslim is only better than another Muslim, when you measure their levels of piety. I think he meant this in the eyes of Allah, Im not sure.

When I was in Pakistan last year I attended a dars, and at the end when the dua was being made, the Aunty said, Allah please show our women the right path, and went off on a critisizing tangent about how bad the women in our society are. I was like, who on earth are you to judge other people, and other women? How do you know what is in their hearts, none of us are perfect.

Re: When people become more religious...

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When their knowledge of Islam increases, and they take a few steps forward to better themselves as Muslims, is it justified for them to think **they are better than people who are less religious?
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anyone who has the better knowledge of Islam will never ever think like that, trust me.

hey Cat,

go and find out what was the first sin committed in human knowledge and you'll find out the answer to your question.

I'll let some Guppies take a stab at this before i come back and post the answer myself. Once again, what was the first sin to be committed?

^^ The eating of the forbidden fruit by Hazrat Adam and Hawwa :as:? :konfused:

Going religious is a good thing, but most of the people in Pakistan make a big fuss out of it... They start looking down on others, thinking (for some reason) that they are better than others, and do alot of 'dikhawa', for instance, alot of religious posters on this particular site do that too.

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anyone who has the better knowledge of Islam will never ever think like that, trust me.
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Precisely what i was thinking. If anything, it should make one feel more humbler... unless i am mistaken, there is an ahadith in either Muslim or Bukhari according to which Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) is reported to have stated, ....I swear by the One other than whom there is no deity, one of you may do the works of the people of paradise right up until there is only an arm's length between him and paradise, but his destiny overtakes him, so he does the actions of the people of the fire and enters it. And, verily, one of you may do the works of the people of hell until there is nothing between them and hell except for one arm's length, but his destiny overtakes him, and so he does the works of the people of paradise, and enters it.

No one, no one, knows who is a "good" or "bad" person except for Allah; it's simply logical that none of us know who will be going to jannat and who won't be. So - anyone who believes that they are 'superior' than someone else by virtue of believing that they are more 'religious' - is living a lie in my opinion. Only Allah knows the destiny of each man; it's not for humans to judge.

I remember the time when I first started going to the Masjid...I was very confident and as I entered the Masjid there were the usual bearded ones around me...The 'fundos' and the 'extremists'...As I walked between them, I knew that I was more world-wise and more knowledgable than them in any subject they wished to discuss with me...Arrogantly I knew I know more about Islam itself than the bearded ones, and I looked at them with disdain...Reason being, I judged them to be judging me, whereas their faces were downcast...I assumed it to be out of reverence for my greatness...

I judged them to be backward, ignorant and depressingly depressed...They however, were very gentle with me and kind...A fact which I again took to my being so knowledgable...Of course, me being so world-wise could guess that these guys were judging me by my experience...

As I started frequenting the masjid more and more, I became the loudest and brashest scholar of Islam in that Masjid...:D...When the bearded ones would smile and stay quiet at my ideas about how to bring Islam up to par with currenttimes, they would smile and lower their heads...An action which I chalked up to my having won the discussion...

Later as I started reading books on Ahadith and characters of the Prophets and the Asahaba, I realized I was little more than a donkey in a human form...

It was I who was judging them to be ignorant for not accepting my ideas to the Quran and Sunnah...It was I who judged them for not wearing cool clothes and hanging out with the crowd...It was I who judged them for their modesty to be a sign of weakness...It was I who had no peace and hence was always poking my nose into their affairs while they hardly ever criticised me for anything...It was I who persecuted them and made their lives harder by pointing out their mistakes while they ignored mine...

Cat, we live in times where patience is taken for weakness and faith is taken for failure...So like the Bible says, 'judge not lest ye be judged'...Isn't it us, the 'modernized' Muslims who actually persecute the true believers for following their faith the way they like to do it?

We can't support them, the least we can do is stay quiet about what they believe...If someone religious comes and tells you, please wear a hijab, don't take it as an insult to yourself...Rather take it as someone practicing their faith which includes correcting those who share ther faith...One should in fact reply with JazakAllah instead of being critical and judgemental labelling them as busybodies...

It's we, the modernized Muslims who hurt them, not they...Never they...

It is Allah's mercy when someone understands the religion better and practices it.

"Mannn urid Allah bihi khairan ufaqahuhu fidin"

Whoever Allah wishes to have Khaer, He gives him/her the true understanding of deen. So it is a very good thing.

In my opinion when a person has good understanding, he/she does not dislike others who have lesser knowledge. In fact his/her love for his/her fellow human beings increases. He/she prays that Allah shows others the light too. This is put into practice by showing the best ikhlaq and personal example. In addition, as the Quran says, such people give dawah in the best possible way (mauiza til hasanah) with hikmat.

All human beings are to be loved. We must all worry that so many people including our own selves may reach the hell fire.

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that is what i was gonna say :k:

I dont know am I religious girl or not but i know that among my friends i am the only girl who do pardah, i advice them too, to wear hijab as i am their friend and i want them to follow right path. My point to say all that is that though among the friends of mine only i do pardah but Alhumdulillah i never think that i am better than them, similarly my sis who is much religious than me, doesnt ever say that she is better than me. Coz only Allah knows that who is better. we can’t read anybody’s heart and mind as some ladies do pardah just to show others that they are religious.

it is really quite a dangerous thing....
some of my friends, who get some knowledge, they just think they r sooo much better than the rest....
and whats worse, some of them dont even pray the 5 regular prayers....

and another thing thats even worse than this one is the problem of saying "I DONT KNOW"....
so now they have a little knowledge, they can quote some verses, they have memorized some ahadith, they have read quite some books, and when someone coems over and asks them something they dont know, its just so hard for them to say that "I dont know"....
so they'll cook up something from thei own and give it to the questioner....
this i feel is even worse than feeling that one is a better muslim....

may Allah guide us all....

Sorry LJ, the first sin was committed even before that,

when <I_I_II Sunahana wa Ta’aala had completed the creation of our father Adam a.s. and asked for all the angels and jinns to bow down in respect, but there was one amongst them who refused to do so, out of arrogance because he considered himself better then what <I_I_II Sunahana wa Ta’aala had created, since he was one of the most pious worshippers back then. And now he is our biggest enemy, i guess by now you know who i am talking about.

So i guess to answer Cat’s question, no matter how many good deeds we do or even how good a muslim/muslima we become, we should always be careful so that we don’t become arrogant and fall into disobedience.

all knowledge is from <I_I_II and he knows best, may <I_I_II guide us all. Ameen