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On the Day of Judgement, Muhammed SAW will go to each prophet before him, asking for their help in intercession on behalf of the Prophet PBUH's Ummah, and will ask them to talk to Allah SWT. Each of the past Prophets will say, "Sorry, we don't have that much authority" and politely decline and offer prayers for the Ummah, but nothing else. Issa AHS will accompany Muhammed SAW till a pass beyond which he (Issa AHS) cannot go, and after that Muhammed SAW will go ahead and pray to Allah to have mercy on his sinful Ummah. So, in a way, since Issa AHS accompanies the Prophet PBUH to a point, Issa Alaikissalam CAN save us (a bit). That is important. (Every lil bit counts eh? )
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Probably more than anything else I am asked this question, must be the perks of living in the bible belt. :)
I have never taken any offence to that nor have I replied in offensive manner. I usually appreciate their gesture of asking me to join their religion.
In reply, I state my own views on Jesus, Islam & how I am a believer of the second coming! Most of the people patiently listen. We exchange ideas and at time meet again for some more interesting discussions.
The exchange is simple, show respect to someone else's faith and they will show respect to yours.
That’s beautiful Ahmadjee, you live in Holy land. You can be locked up in New York for mentioning Jesus. I say it is possible that Jesus can save you (I have read it on bumper stickers). Look at it this way, if someone can go to havens on a horse, survive inside a fish, divide the sea into two, cure blinds, go on a cruise with animals, why can’t Jesus save sinners?
Well..Ana I was told that Shafa'at is only for the good and pious people of this Ummah and not for sinners. As for the non-muslim, that is all up to God to decide.
hmm,*ana * wht u chatin bout, i have never in my life heard such a thing........is it true people?maybe its coz i'm a sunni, but dat doesnt make a difference i still havent ever heard of wht u'v said.
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**Well..Ana I was told that Shafa'at is only for the good and pious people of this Ummah and not for sinners. As for the non-muslim, that is all up to God to decide.*
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Quite the reverse from what i know, Shafa'a will be for those who commit the greater sins since they need it most. As for disbelievers, intercession doesn't apply to them. Of course, the outcome of people who didn't hear the message of Islam (either because the message didn't reach them or they heard it but had some disability that prevented them from understanding it, etc. etc.) is an entirely different matter.
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If Christians believe that Jesus saved all humanity rather than himself by being crucified, then which section of humanity are we talking about?
The section up to his 'death'? Or the section after his death?
Surely, logic dictates that the sacrifice should of taken place either at the beginning or the end and not half way through.
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Christians believe both groups of people have the possibility of being "saved" by Christ's death on the cross, true. A sacrifice can occur at the beginning, end or middel with no "logical" problems :)
At what point in time then were righteous people who had passed away before Christ’s sacrifice actually “saved”? Was their salvation suspended until the crucifixion had taken place?
Quite the reverse from what i know, Shafa'a will be for those who commit the greater sins since they need it most. As for disbelievers, intercession doesn't apply to them. Of course, the outcome of people who didn't hear the message of Islam (either because the message didn't reach them or they heard it but had some disability that prevented them from understanding it, etc. etc.) is an entirely different matter.
And Allah knows best.
Iqbal
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That would be most unfair..don’t you think so?
I think there are some other criteria before intercession. Can’t recall all of them now.
*That would be most unfair..don’t you think so? *
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Salams google. Just wanted to know which part of my statement you were referring to: That intercession is more applicable to those who commit greater sins or that intercession doesn't apply to disbelievers?
