When is rape not rape?

[diwana]

Re: When is rape not rape?

@canadiandesigirl

I barely ever post in life1 but I just had to..

Diwana first of all your last sentence in your reply to Jaanwar was extremely rude and uncalled for.
Secondly I think you are only reading what you agree with in psyah’s post. Actually you did highlight it but you obviously still missed the point. He said “In marriage all of the above apply plus.” Now lets look at what is all of the above “Before the act - There needs to be consent, During the act - There needs to be consent, After the act - No feeling of exploitation.” So obviously if a spouse does not give consent it is indeed not morally correct even in marriage. Yes, I understand in Islam you have to have a legitimate reason to say no to sexual relationships with your spouse BUT no where have I ever read that one is allowed to force themselves on their partner. What you are saying is if there is no legit reason you are free to go ahead and abuse your partner which i neither morally, legally or Islamically correct.

I think you missed his rude post altogether.

RE: Psyah’s post. I read it all and agreed to all. I copied all but commented on last bold part.

Where did you see problem there is my next question..

I never said ‘force’ is justified. I said, there is no right for a spouse to deny sex without legit reason. But outside marriage, there is no need to have any reason whatsoever to deny. You added the forced part yourself. Now this rape issue will never come ever in marriage if spouse is giving what is required by other spouse as fulfillment of his or her duty. Where else spouse should go for satisfying need then?