Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
No, thats because in the recent years…last 20 or so years, thanks to MQM…there are’nt too many bright prospects to break into the top ranks…I know of three family members, with varrying predicaments, abilities and legacies, retire as Majors from the army…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
why people tend to forget the top man in Pakistan right now Musharraf is also a mohajir! it may because families migrated from india were more into business than armed forces or police or any public service. hence its automatically filled with more in numbers by punjabis and less in numbers- pathans, but have tradition to join army.
the clashed in khi in 80's were mostly tit for tat from both sides or more. and these are exploit by so called local leaders to gain support on niche basis of ethinicity. innocent people from both sides got killed but they didnt care as long as they were moving to grab power.
MQM torture cells were screened during the operation clean up, these were disgusting and planned for brutality. certainly there must be tit for tat from other sides too of similar nature.
so I dont think people are to blame, a common person from any ethinicty is not member of any organised group. but they get killed just cause they looked punjabi pathan, balochi or mohajir.
it was sad that there were no go areas in karachi for certain ethinic groups, people werent free to go to these areas.
leaders are too blame for this. zia kept a blind eye and supported when MQM merges started this cause he wanted to finish PPP from the city. response was certain from sindhis and other groups. local leaders are also to blame they allowed workers to exploit people for own personal gains. people got killed kidnapped after just for money not cause they belong to certain groups.
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Sadiyah...I don't know ...why are you equating all Muhajirs with MQM???
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
are sindhis least agressive group in pakistan in fighting for power?
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Yep…Rightly said…my Father although being from UP…has lived all his life in Punjab…& is totally assimilated with the Punjabi culture…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Nopes BB & AZ are nothing less from anyone else…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
I find it hard to believe that sukay saRay (think and dark) Mohajirs can kill Tall and well built Punjabis. I highly doubt it.
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
its all dikhawa…warna historically no other ethnicity of pakistan has been ruled over by as many foregin powers as our tall and well-built punjabis…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
and the same sookhay saray mohajirs are there in the indian army as well....they cant be all punjabis there....so its not so lop-sided as it appears...
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
MQM has managed quite a few in Karachi…including some Paki Army soormas…
BTW, Youhana and the rest of his bhangi/punjabi ilk are all well built, tall and fair…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
So tit for tat it has been all along.
I'd like to thank you for all for your input.
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
i am punjabi, i think if urdu speaking population suffered in karachi then punjabis, pushtoons and balochis settled in karachi suffered as well as i did, because in 1970's due to my father service in krchi i was born there although my father was indeginous punjabi from pakistani side punjab, and i could not get punjab domicile, and with karachi domicile i was in 2% quota system. thats was an irony for me.!
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
****ing crap....it was punjabies and phathans who killed mahajirs....
sindhis have not never accepted us as pakis....we mahajirs were idiot....i dont know y we came to pak..thanks to quaid azam...
pakistan army killed more then 5000 innocent mahajirs in karachi 1992 operation..wht an army
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Here is some input from me:D
1998
The Nation "in its Editorial note of 10th Jan 1998 while discussing the “No Go Areas” of MQM has said, “No Go Areas was a peculiar self-defence concept to begin with but in the polarised city of Karachi this was perhaps the only way for the two rival of MQM factions from continuing to kill each other.”
On Jan 10th three persons including one woman were killed while five others injured in indiscriminate firing in MQM factions clash. (The Muslim, The Nation11-1-98)
On 16th Jan. 1998 Birg. A.R. Siddiqi published a news analysis about the clashes between rival MQM groups, in which he said, serial shoot-outs and armed encounters between the workers of the mainstream (Muthaidda) and breakaway (Mohajir) MQM have made a virtual hostage of public peace in the city’s predominantly Mohajir district East - and elsewhere in the Mohajir areas. Hardly a day passes without the bad news of bloody clash amanating from there.
On 10th Jan, a wayside shoot-out at the AP - Karam Square in central District claimed three killed and several wounded - all unwary commuters. The next day - Sunday 11 Jan, saw a macabre reply claiming another three killed and an equal number wounded at the Korangi Sunday Bazar."
He further said "The tit-for-tat clashes are assuming almost the dimension of tribal blood feud and vendettas.(The Nation 16 -1-98).
On 17thJan Mohajir Qaumi Movement claimed that Muthaidda’s so called missing activists were staying in various countries under fake names and that name of these activists will be released to the press.
It also said “disappearance of the Muthaidda’s 28 activists is nothing but a mere drama.”(Frontier Post Peshawar 18-1-98).
On 1st Feb, 2 MQM (H) men were shot dead in Karachi and Muthaidda denied the charges of involvement as usual.(The News, Rawalpindi 2-2-98).
On 7th Feb Both factions of MQM exchanged fire for almost an hour in which one person was killed.(Nawa-I-Waqt,Rawalpindi 8-1-98).
On 8th, August Dr Saghir Anasari MQM’s MPA narrowly escaped when fire opened by Haqiqi terrorists but one of MQM worker Mohammed Salim sustained bullet injuries.(The Muslim, Islamabad 9-8-98)
On 13th August two MQM (Haqiqi) men were gunned down in Shah Fiasal Colony of district-East in Karachi. Syed Hodi Abbas Rizvi alias Ansar Rizvi and his neighbor Syed Athar Ali Zaidi(The Nation, Islamabad 14-8-98).
On 14 August The Peshawar Police arrested an Afghan refugee from Karachi - bound Khushal Express train at Cantonment Railway station and recovered cache of sophisticated arms from his possession that he was taking to deliver to one of the MQM factions in Karachi Police recovered two heavy boxes from the possession of the accused and during search found them full of sophisticated weapons and ammunition including 10 kalashnikovs, five 30 - bore pistols, nine hand grenades, nine buses along with 10 detonators, spare magazines and 2,500 rounds of 7.62 caliber and 30 bore.(The News Rawalpindi, 15-8- 98).
On 15th August on Muhttida’s call for strike 35 shapes, 50 vehicles put on fire, and seven persons including a policeman killed and nine injured.(The Nation, Islamabad 16-8-98).
MQM quits Sindh coalition (The News, Rawalpindi 27-8-98).
On August 27th MQM infighting claims more lives. Over 60 activists arrested. (The Muslim, Islamabad 28-8-98).
On 17th Oct renowned scholar and social worker ex-governor Sindh Hakim Mohd Saeed assassinated by MQM’s terrorists
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
most muhajirs who came from india to pakistan before partition were belonging to shudhra cast eqv of punjabi bhangi choorhay, they saved themselves from upper hindu caste by converting to muslims and hence they were not untouchable any more. these shudhra zaat people who forgot their past in karachi in 1980's used to tell their punjabi neighbours to give the house keys before fleeing to punjab from muhajirs wrath and massacare entrenched over to punjabis, pathans and even sindhi. thanks
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Moahjirs were going around killing a lot of people… Even your fellow Mohajirs are fed up with Mohajirs. Now your fellow Mohajirs have turned on each other… Anyone who doesnt support the MQM is attacked.
Anyways, go back to India, who’s stopping you?
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Mohajirs remember your type, the ones who always were lookin to give a b.job. No wonder u still hv a bad memory, too much to swallow huh…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
had it not been mohajirs u still wud be cleaning ranjeet singh stables, so go offer shukranay ke nwafil…
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
Hell is your problem? Have nothing against Mohajirs, only ones who hate everyone for no reason. If You hate Pakistan so much, then please go back to India. Ranjheet Singh was a million times better then these so called Pakistan bashing “Mohajirs.”
BTW, How did Mohajirs save us from Ranjit Singh?
Re: When exactly did MQM or Khi-tes killed Punjabis?
^Loser.