What's up with Pakistani's wearing Arbi dress and pretending to be religious?

Don’t tell me you guys haven’t seen that at the mosques here in the US/Canada/UK where ever. They will come wearing the Arabic dress (jubba) and act like they are so pious and religious, as if wearing an Arbi dress makes them closer to God or something. Then some of them even try to put on fake Arbi type accent when speaking Urdu. Please…

lol does Abayyya count? I have seeen some grls wearing abayas on top of skin tight jeans/short tops and would take it off as soon as they leave the masjid.. I find it hypocrisy but if someones wears anything properly and with the right intentions, it doesn’t matter if the dress is from an Arab country or an Asian!

Urdu/Arabic accent: now thats cute :hehe:

whats wrong in wearing a jubba? people wear jeans and copy american or british accent its nothing they copy arabic its a trouble? their lives their choice. may be they like arabic dressing and their accent.

I agree with you, you can be a Punjabi and a perfect Muslim, I hate people who act like Arabs and claim Arab descent. Arabs are our brothers but we don’t have to copy their culture, one of the beauties of this Ummat is the variety.

I’ve never worn Arab clothes and my female relatives all wear Salwar Kamiz and a Chador as outer garment, it’s more modest than Arab dress which shows the shape and curves of the body. Arabic headscarf is only worn with western clothes (skirt/blouse/shawl) because Dupatta or Chador would look ridiculous on English clothes.

If living in an Arab country then there’s no problem but it’s not necessary over here.

I’ve heard Arabic accented Urdu too and I hate it, let Urdu stay Urdu.

I think we should learn Arabic though because it’s the language of our Scriptures and of Heaven but we should recognise our own nations, tongues and tribes (without taking pride) as our Rabb made us to be like that and we shouldn’t be wannabes and be ashamed of our idenitity.

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*Originally posted by Wise One: *
whats wrong in wearing a jubba? people wear jeans and copy american or british accent its nothing they copy arabic its a trouble? their lives their choice. may be they like arabic dressing and their accent.
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I agree, as long as we're not ashamed of who we are and hold onto our own culture aswell there's nothing wrong with speaking Arabic or wearing Arab clothes, just don't mix the two togther like Urdu with Arabic accent, wtf.

my wardrobe has everything from western/asian/moroccan - everything from classy to pure wild

anyone can dress how they want, what the hell is wrong with that? yeah if you find hypocrasy in how they behave keep it inside yourself, who are you to judge others???

leave and let be, improve yourself before pointing out others shortcomings

clothes dont make a person its the character

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*Originally posted by Ranjhan: *
I agree with you, you can be a Punjabi and a perfect Muslim, I hate people who act like Arabs and claim Arab descent. Arabs are our brothers but we don’t have to copy their culture, one of the beauties of this Ummat is the variety.

I’ve never worn Arab clothes and my female relatives all wear Salwar Kamiz and a Chador as outer garment, it’s more modest than Arab dress which shows the shape and curves of the body. Arabic headscarf is only worn with western clothes (skirt/blouse/shawl) because Dupatta or Chador would look ridiculous on English clothes.

If living in an Arab country then there’s no problem but it’s not necessary over here.

I’ve heard Arabic accented Urdu too and I hate it, let Urdu stay Urdu.

I think we should learn Arabic though because it’s the language of our Scriptures and of Heaven but we should recognise our own nations, tongues and tribes (without taking pride) as our Rabb made us to be like that and we shouldn’t be wannabes and be ashamed of our idenitity.
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I agree with you.

As for Urdu, it should remain the way it is and not be accented with any language (unless one can't help speaking the way they do with, for example, an English accented Urdu only because they were born and raised abroad). I've seen Pakistani international students in Canada that speak Urdu with an English accent, which looks incredibly fake and ridiculous, only because it's either the trend in Pakistan or whatever reason. Then there is the Hindi influence too, where people pronounce KH words as K, for example "Main kush hoon" instead of KHUSH when they know perfectly well that you prounce the KH sound in Urdu but they want to speak that way just because it's the trend. I'm not bashing Hindi, English, Arabic, or anything. My point is that languages should be spoken the way they are meant to be.

pakistan is changing so fast that you buy something today and the next day there's something else on the market so it's getting too competitive!

what does this have to do with health and relationships?

perhaps the gross generlization affects the interaction with people and then with relationships?

Well if they are wearing arabic Jubbas to follow the example of the Prophet (PBUH) then no one should have a problem with it in fact it should be an act that gains reward.

As Wise One mentioned, we wear jeans and baseball caps and watch american films to be closer to western cultures.

As for Urdu spoken in a Arabic accent, Ive never heard this but I have definately heard the reveerse: Quranic Arabic spoken and read in an Urdu accent which should be made a criminal offence - I agree with Larki on that one!

Try this on for size: my Quranic arabic inadvertantly comes across with a thick British accent at times :bummer:

and to think that pakistan's own cultural dress (shalwar kameez) or to be more specific, the punjabi dressing (dhoti and kurta) is much closer to the Prophet(saw)'s dressing than the dress of todays' arabs....

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Quranic Arabic spoken and read in an Urdu accent which should be made a criminal offence - I agree with Larki on that one!
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thats not fair..Its not our fault if we were not born and raised in an Arab country so we can read Quraan in an arab accent.. I dun think if Allah Taa'la actually cares about our accent by any chance, all we have to do is pronouce the words right and get to know the meaning of those Quraan verses rather than being embarrassed that why can't I read Quraan in an arab accent?!?

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*Originally posted by Gemini the Great: *

thats not fair..Its not our fault if we were not born and raised in an Arab country so we can read Quraan in an arab accent.. I dun think if Allah Taa'la actually cares about our accent by any chance, all we have to do is pronouce the words right and get to know the meaning of those Quraan verses rather than being embarrassed that why can't I read Quraan in an arab accent?!?
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Your right - I agree - I was thinking more of the arrogance sometimes shown by our people when it comes to quranic arabic.

I have an arabic friend who is a teacher of quran and he was told by a pakistani in the mosque that his (ie the teachers) pronounciataion was not right and the way he (the pakistani) was doing it was the correct way! And this is quite common amongst our people - some seem to always think they know better.