If non-muslims are getting same blessings as Muslims are getting then whats the advantage of being a muslim & praying, doing namaz roza & stuff? …… don’t you think muslims should have more advantage as we pray & all ? …… The point is Allah is giving all of us, muslims & non-muslims, then where is the difference? ….. they are getting showered by Allah’s blessing too……
I don't think Muslims who are Muslims including myself for the sake of being Muslim and being born into Islam should get more reward just because we pray or fast. What is the point of ibadat, namaz, zakaat and roza?!? To teach us to be a better human and to have patience, compassion, faith in desperate times, humility and to help another with our words, actions and our earnings. Our actions should determine how we are rewarded and if a non Muslim is more patient, humble, someone who spreads kindness and joy thru his action is basically a better human but without the constant reminder from the roza and namaaaz, then they should be rewarded.
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aajkal aapkaa mo'aamila kuchh yuN hai k:
aate haiN Ghaib se yeh mazaamiiN Khayaal meN!
religion is something that makes your life more disciplined, provides society some direction. the REWARD is after death!
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If non-muslims are getting same blessings as Muslims are getting then whats the advantage of being a muslim & praying, doing namaz roza & stuff? …… don’t you think muslims should have more advantage as we pray & all ? …… The point is Allah is giving all of us, muslims & non-muslims, then where is the difference? ….. they are getting showered by Allah’s blessing too……
The difference is in akhira ... Also, in this world it is not about what we are getting but about how we react to what we are getting ... If it makes us better towards one another and makes us appreciate Allah (SWT) then what we have received has benefited us, but if it makes us worse towards one another and makes us forget Allah (SWT) then what we get in the way of riches and benefits is a danger for us in the hereafter despite them being pleasurable for us here.
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I don't think Muslims who are Muslims including myself for the sake of being Muslim and being born into Islam should get more reward just because we pray or fast. What is the point of ibadat, namaz, zakaat and roza?!? To teach us to be a better human and to have patience, compassion, faith in desperate times, humility and to help another with our words, actions and our earnings. Our actions should determine how we are rewarded and if a non Muslim is more patient, humble, someone who spreads kindness and joy thru his action is basically a better human but without the constant reminder from the roza and namaaaz, then they should be rewarded.
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Do we not have a duty to fulfil the Right of Allah (SWT)? There is enough proof that Namaz, zakat, roza, do not help people ... Not always anyway ... to become good ... But we should be doing them as well as trying to be good to each other ... Because Allah's instruction over us is binding as His Haqq ... And our good conduct with each other is binding as another Haqq.
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well in heaven you guys’ll get a special second plate of biryani every friday. 
non-muslims will only get one plate. (a bigger plate though 
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I don't think Muslims who are Muslims including myself for the sake of being Muslim and being born into Islam should get more reward just because we pray or fast. What is the point of ibadat, namaz, zakaat and roza?!? To teach us to be a better human and to have patience, compassion, faith in desperate times, humility and to help another with our words, actions and our earnings. Our actions should determine how we are rewarded and if a non Muslim is more patient, humble, someone who spreads kindness and joy thru his action is basically a better human but without the constant reminder from the roza and namaaaz, then they should be rewarded.
I don’t get it …… then whats the point of practicing islam…… people who are not practicing islam are better humans too ….. then where is the difference ? .... its just about labeling ourselves then? ……
"some" non-muslims are getting everything they want while muslims aren't even though they are continously asking from Allah n praying & fulfilling all the duties .... whats the point of ibadat then?
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I don’t get it …… then whats the point of practicing islam…… people who are not practicing islam are better humans too ….. then where is the difference ? .... its just about labeling ourselves then? …… "some" non-muslims are getting everything they want while muslims aren't even though they are continously asking from Allah n praying & fulfilling all the duties .... whats the point of ibadat then?
You are perhaps only looking at the physical side of "what people are getting" by performing religious obligations. The peace of mind that a momin gets after performing his/her religious obligations in a good manner has no comparison. This is just a small token though, as the real prize will be in the hereafter.
Moreover, ibadat just for the sake of it being compulsory is mostly meaningless, one's heart has to be in it. Without that, its just an exercise.
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Also, if you compare a golf ball with a beach ball and a beach ball with the planet Earth that is an analogous comparison between small acts of good, big acts of good and to be monotheistic. Monotheism or escaping disbelief is a weighty act and shirk is another weighty act ... To be in Iman needs a lot of good doing to equal that ...
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Dear friends, the answers to all questions lie in the text of the quran if anyone is interested in trying to understand it. It needs detailed explanation but for the time being I am very busy so I will only try to explain very basic things.
You will agree that there are only three possible ways people can learn and do things. a)evolutionary b)revelation based and c)a bit of both. To reach self organisation and self regulation stage of learning if humanity only adopted evolutionary way of life then it could have taken it many many generations. It is because as humanity grows each generation only makes a very limited progress so accumulating the information and its understanding for reaching stage of self organisation and regulation takes very long time this way. In short it is a very, very slow process. How could it lead to self organisation and self regulation? It is because interaction between individuals and groups is based upon conflicts and compromises. As people fight each other for their individual and group interests a bit of progress is made each time there is conflict or compromise. In other words such interaction leads to better skills for survival and that means better knowledge and better realisation of things. If this process continued for as long as it needs then ultimately humanity will reach same goal as the quran has already stated ie world will ultimately end up living peacefully, progressively and will become prosperous.
The difference the revelation of Allah can make to existence of humanity is that teacher teaches people what they will learn our many generations through personal experiences in a very short time. This is what divine messengers have proven by their examples. It is like you leave one human baby on his own to learn and do things by himself and teach another human baby to do the same and after some while compare them and see who has learned more and quicker. So if people are educated about things they need to know then they can come to same point or goal very quickly. Not only that but people will save themselves from all lot of painful suffering as well. It is easier to learn fire burns through teaching with less pain and effort as compare to jumping into the fire to find out it burns.
The 3rd option is life experience as well as learning through teaching here and there. This also cuts down time and suffering but it depends upon how much is learned through teaching rather than experience. In short we are talking about development of human mindset, attitude and behaviour and the time it can take if it is put through various modes of learning and doing things.
regards and all the best.
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god does not need our prayers that he will give us more when we pray.
we need to pray to keep or protect ourselves from evil
I have a theory, maybe a stupid one, but still worth some thoughts.
Religions are like American universities.Yale maybe a fantastic university, but MIT is only going to promise MIT degree to those who are registered in MIT and not to those who are in Yale. Also, MIT is going to strongly discourage anyone quitting MIT to join Yale. Whenever there is a direct competition (a college football match or securing a grant), MIT is going to to do anything and everything to ridicule Yale.
Now replace MIT with one religion, Yale with another, and degree with salvation in after life and you will get the anology.
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TLK its a weird algebraic question involving ratios which you have mentioned 
and i’m weak at maths 
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If non-muslims are getting same blessings as Muslims are getting then whats the advantage of being a muslim & praying, doing namaz roza & stuff? …… don’t you think muslims should have more advantage as we pray & all ? …… The point is Allah is giving all of us, muslims & non-muslims, then where is the difference? ….. they are getting showered by Allah’s blessing too……
You should know that worldly life is test, and the one who is testing is most capable of testing his creation, so you should trust his capability to test humans justly and appropriately.
You are right, all are created by Allah (irrespective), and for Allah all his creations are equally important. There is no inherent advantage other than both are getting tested in different ways. One is getting tested through others, and such variation in beliefs plus opportunities, is part of testing environment.
In the end, all would be asked on judgement day what they believed and how they availed the opportunities they were provided by Allah in this world. Parameters of judgement would take every opportunities and variables that we see in this world into account, as that is just way of judging people having variable opportunities, situations and circumstance, and we believe that Allah is most just (Adil).
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You are perhaps only looking at the physical side of "what people are getting" by performing religious obligations. The peace of mind that a momin gets after performing his/her religious obligations in a good manner has no comparison. This is just a small token though, as the real prize will be in the hereafter. Moreover, ibadat just for the sake of it being compulsory is mostly meaningless, one's heart has to be in it. Without that, its just an exercise.
So what you are trying say is that non-muslims don't have peace of mind ....... that is not right though ......
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god does not need our prayers that he will give us more when we pray.
we need to pray to keep or protect ourselves from evil
If God doesn't need our prayers then why punish us if we don't pray ....
non-muslims don't pray to Allah but still they are protected from evil? ..... so where is the difference ....
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The question you asked "If God does not need our prayers then why punish us if we don't pray?"
Think about the opposite case ..."God needs our prayers and when we don't offer them then we get punished" such a thought process is wrong ... because it makes God needful of us ... How can that be a true idea about God ... that He needs us? It has to be case that God is needless of us or else we end up having power over Him. Auzdubillahi ... So the question is absurd ... God wanting us to pray must have a different reason and our punishment cannot be linked to what God Wants for Himself, but what God Wants for us ... So the removal of God's Blessing is the same as getting punishment.
Non-Muslims are still protected from harms and some evils, but they are not protected from the greatest evil ... Which is disbelief itself ...
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Allah made us and the angels to pray.And we must pray.The reqards of all these things and good deeds will be given to us on the day of judgement and this is our eman that if we pray He is going to bless us .So instead of thinking y continue to pray :) u ll surely get a rewardtoday or tommorow, in the world of after this life :) May Allah bless us . Ameen and we keep on praying.
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Iman kay bad Aazmaish shart hia... Allah khud qoran main farmatay hian kay woh eman lanay walon ko zaroor azmaye ga...