Those pictures you posted above…beautiful people no doubt, but still don’t see why their looks are such a big deal.
I’ve grown up mostly around blacks and west indians and spanish people…and there are attractive and unattractive people in all of those groups. same with Pakistanis.
People who judge beauty on race, that so and so race is ugly or so and so race is beautiful, are delusional…i think.
Those pictures you posted above....beautiful people no doubt, but still don't see why their looks are such a big deal.
I've grown up mostly around blacks and west indians and spanish people....and there are attractive and unattractive people in all of those groups. same with Pakistanis.
People who judge beauty on race, that so and so race is ugly or so and so race is beautiful, are delusional...i think.
I totally agree. I think the reason why Kashmiris are so fetishized in the Subcontinent is because we happen to have fairer skin on average than people in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh. For whatever reason, many cultures consider that a desirable trait and equate it with beauty. At the end of the day, there are plenty of Kashmiris who aren't particularly attractive, and plenty of beautiful people from all other ethnic groups.
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^ fetishized ? Really !! :aq:
Adding to fetishizing list
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With many desis...it seems that fair skin is the factor that determines beauty. I've even heard comments that "So n so is so pretty/handsome/good looking because he or she is fair." Even if other factors such as proportion of features, weight, etc....might not meet the society's standards of beauty.
I've even heard people (aunties mostly) say that if someone is fair skinned.....their "flaws"....in facial features are hidden better. It's like saying people won't notice if your eyes are small or if your nose is crooked if you have fair skin. Which isn't true. Somethings like red acne, for example....will stand out even more on lighter skin. It's a gross assumption, I think. And such notions put more pressure on darker-skinned people....that any slight imperfection on their face is an even bigger deal just because they don't have the light skin to "hide" it.
I personally think it depends upon the features of the individual more so than the skin color. And their attitude/personality plays a role in how people perceive them. And the best advantage that darker skin has over fair skin.....is that it ages slower and more gracefully. Considering how obsessed today's society is in maintaining their youthful looks....it's a shame that this advantage is not considered by those who see darker skin as a flaw or inferior quality.
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Also, as mentioned before that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That said, we all are entitled to our preferences and opinions of what we consider beautiful. That's not the problem. The problem is when skin color is used to hurt or discriminate....or is associated with success, privileges, etc (Put on this whitening cream and you'll have a better life commercial, etc.)
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I really believe one of the reasons with today's obsession with "fairer skin" is bollywood--I mean seriously how many of these indian bollywood heroines actually look indian?...And one of the reasons that Slumdog Millionare was so popular was that ppl could relate to this movie with ppl that actually LOOKEd like normal Indian ppl- Frieda Pinto for example!
frieda pinto isn't normal looking, she's way above average
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^ I mean in skin tone...She is beautiful though....
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Media (movies, books, art) mirrors the views a society has. So, one can't always say that the media is the root cause for the beliefs upheld by people. People uphold certain ideas....which then get manifested through different media. The media in its various forms can, yes, aggravate the situation....and perpetuate the beliefs. But it also has the potential to make a positive difference as well.
^And unfortunately it's difficult to completely eradicate age old notions that have been so deeply rooted in a culture for generations....before Bollywood/Hollywood (Aishwarya, Kapoor sisters, Preity Zinta) came about.
I really believe one of the reasons with today's obsession with "fairer skin" is bollywood
The fetishization of fair skin predates Bollywood, and even the arrival of the Europeans - take a look at old Mughal and Rajput paintings and see what kind of features the people are portrated as having - everyone has fair skin. Nor is this concept unique to the areas where Bollywood films are popular - fair skin is considered beuatiful everywhere from East Asia to the Middle East to Africa.
The fetishization of fair skin predates Bollywood, and even the arrival of the Europeans - take a look at old Mughal and Rajput paintings and see what kind of features the people are portrated as having - everyone has fair skin. Nor is this concept unique to the areas where Bollywood films are popular - fair skin is considered beuatiful everywhere from East Asia to the Middle East to Africa.
Exactly my point. Notions about fair skin being better/prettier were held way before entertainment industries were established.
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i see...
I really believe one of the reasons with today's obsession with "fairer skin" is bollywood--I mean seriously how many of these indian bollywood heroines actually look indian?...And one of the reasons that Slumdog Millionare was so popular was that ppl could relate to this movie with ppl that actually LOOKEd like normal Indian ppl- Frieda Pinto for example!
i don't think she's above average looking. very typical indian looks...but she's considered beautiful for it outside of south asia!