what would you do when..........

i would like to know what you guys would do if you were walking down the street and a lady is being sexually harrassed and verbally abused.

would you 1) ignore it
2) help her
3) call the cops

its a serious question cos in the west women have no respect and sadly ive been in this situation 3times.

if you decide to help then their is fear for your life cos they could kill you.

last month i was in court for beating the shit out of one guy who was abusing a lady. He was making explicit sexual remarks abt her as she was walking home from college. I happened to be nearby and lost my temper.

i got arrested for assault and the abuser of the lady filed a complaint against me. I escaped 3 months prison thanks be to allah.

in future i would think twice abt helping a lady because the law in uk favours the criminal and i cant go to court every 6 months. Also what if he had a gun or knife.

what would you guys do in such a situation?

Depends what part of the world you're in but since you've outlined West, I would call the Cops and let harasser know that I've called the Cops. That alone should serve as the deterrent.

its a serious question cos in the west women have no respect and sadly ive been in this situation 3times.

this myth has sort of become a cliche for a good number of people on the internet...

well
if the women was wearing a mini skirt with all of herself showing i wouldnt do nothing
if how ever she was wearing a parda and still she was harrased then i would take some action like beat the shit out of the guy

if the women was wearing a mini skirt with all of herself showing i wouldnt do nothing...

hehehe.. this is funny. So basically, your argument is that if a women wearing skimpy clothing is raped, she was asking for it. Literally.

What if she was wearing a burqa over a mini skirt?

Rizwan, ghalib's right: no matter how the woman is dressed -- even in the "liberal" West society -- no woman ever, ever asks to be abused in any way.

But anyways, back to Sufimater's say....well Sufimaster, as weird as it is in me saying something like this to you, i'm very glad you did what you did in order to stop a woman from being sexually harrassed. Usually,unfortunately, a lot of guys -- including Muslim guys -- are just cowards or appear not to care when it comes to acting upon a lady who's in that particular kind of situation.

Sufimaster, I am truly impressed by your action. I have just sent you a case of Canadian Beer and some Bacon as a token of appreciation. Man, one should always look for such opportunities to use one’s Ghasuns. Man, my fists are itching to break a few noses, to do some root-canals on some wild-az hoodlums. Here is NY, unfortunately such a thing can get you in for a few years. So I save all my aggressions for when I am in Pakistan. At most, it is a couple of bucks in Policeman’s pocket, and hurray, some more broken noses.

Well Done Sufimaster.

Now that you are on the Scotland Yard’s computer system. Next time, use good judgement.

NYAhmadi, u sounds confused in this western society. I can understand why you wrote about sending bottle of beer, and bacon, when you could have offered sending a pack of choclate milk and chicken. I know you must be drinking beer and eating pork, but that doesn't mean that you start offering it, knowing that Muslims dont drink.

So next time if you feeling like giving any thing, restrain from beer and bacon.

take care

Good job Sufi bhai!

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Sufimaster: the best bet will be to call the cops, i mean thats what they are there for, u pay taxes for them. No sense in being a hero, it can have fatal results, because if someone is agressive wnough to attack women openly, what to say he cant take ur life?

rizwanfareed: sexual and verbal abuse is not acceptable despite what the woman is wearing, its just stupid thinking that if a woman is wearing a miniskirt she is inviting you to harass her. Its mostly this thinking that initiates these sick acts of brutality.

NYAhmadi: try joining some therapy groups for channeling your aggression towards something positive, not breaking noses.

I would personally call the person who is harrasing and ask them what will you do if someone does the same thing with your sister and tht will either put them in their place and say sorry or what ever and if they are harami kinda they will babble and rave about why did i said that to them. Coward.

Jaawan


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**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!

Sufi...I apprecite what you did..but damn it...call the cops next time...this is not the right modus operandi...

As far as the question of mini...or not-mini..well, I think it does not really matter..so all the proponents of not-helping-the-mini-wearing-woman, should I assume that you stand excused even if you were the one responsible for harrasment...anyways, she was the one who excited you...;-)

thanks for all the feedback guys. Some of yous said that calling the cops is the best way. I know that in the US the law is strict and abusers get the jail.In the UK its hard to prove someone is abusing you and the punishment for such harami people is a 50quid fine. Besides, in such situations the police take 40 minutes to come and when you are actually in a situation you think differently from normal cos of the pressure of the moment.

apart from witnessing women bein abused verbally i myself have been racially abused in the street. Rascism for some reason is getting worse and worse and i know others that have bad experience. The usual words they call you is black b******, paki go home etc etc.

have any of yous been racially abused and what would you do?

sadly its been 6 times ive been racially abused, mostly in the city centre. After the court case & threat of jail ive learnt to walk away from trouble but its when others who cant defend themself need help i got to step in.

im always in the wrong place at the wrong time.

dear ny
thanks for theoffering of beer but i prefer a can of cola and some sweetmeats. When i got free from court my family had such a celebration, its a shame some fo you gupoos couldnt make it. If i invited you would yous have came? im serious!

im just worreid if ny would really bring case of beer to my house on happy occasion.....LOL

Malang and Yasin… read my reply once again, and pay close attention to the last sentence. If it not clear to you what I was saying, then you missed my point. Here is my closing once again for you:

“….use good judgement…”

sorry for causing you confusion.

I think you were right to stand up to the guy, and if standing up to him put you in danger, then you were right to defend yourself. Not sure if beating him to a pulp really helped anyone, but hey.

A couple of months ago i was leaving the tube (london) and a couple of drunk guys were being a pain. These guys were big (rugby players) and loud. Anyway, i was standing behind them as one guy put his arm around a girl standing on her own and started hassling her. I shout after him in my puny voice "Hey, leave that girl alone!", he turns drunkenly around and growls "what did you say?", and the girl, embarrased, says "it's okay - i know him - unfortunately!". Anyway, she was really grateful, i saved getting pounded into the ground, and i felt glad that i had said something.

So, we're agreed that it's right to step in if a girl (regardless of dress) or an asian person is being abused - how about if it's gay guy being abused?

i would just stand aside and watch (kidding).

i dunno i never faced such situation and my action would be sudden according to the circumstances.


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thanks for sharing that experience milos......you are brave to stand up to a big rugby player. Remember the david and goliath story. In such circumstance use some of the martial arts.........boot him in the balls and punch his nose into his skull..... that will teach them cowards.

regarding rascism experiences im surprised that kohal and others havent been racially abused before.... well have yous?

maybe asian women dont get rascism as much as asian guys......i know of a sikh lady who was stabbed by white thugs. Its becoming more difficult to live in the west so dont make yourselves at home so soon.

No matter how much we try to fit into soceity in the west they willl never except us.
anybody agree?

i would help either way she needs help!

i will just call rizwan fareed to beat the shit out of the guy!!! lol