What will be the culture and language of the subcontinent after a century?

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Why do u want to be so obsessed with your identity. Everything that you see are either for or against your identity. U r obsessed with a thought which majority of the world doesnt believe.
What I find from your rantings is a man who is highly insecure about his identity, and wants to keep telling himself that I am this and that, in the process he demeans himself by trying to mock other race (country) by highlighting that they are of inferior abilities and intentions.

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The official language of the whole subcontinent would be sanskrit with hinduism as the official religion with 100% following...

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It is ironic this thread. One hand, it is about how cultures and practices will merge and mutate over time. Same toke, someone is arguing about name of the sub-continent even though Indua floes right through Pakistan. Between bollywod movies running to packed houses in Afganistan and desi restaurants being classified under Indian cuisine, retrofitting names sounds kinda dumb

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the only reason I take exception to this is because identity is not something you create. You can only create an image. A name change is going to give you an identity? I recall a few years ago someone I knew wanted to sue India for stealing the name India.

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Stupid! Goras are not stupids they are ruling the world since 1492! Wo stupid ban kay stupid banatay hain! Sorry If i hurt you! Just kidding!

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This is so funny. I have never heard or read anyone saying South Asian Continent. It is always referred as Indian subcontinent. Dont make a big deal of it.

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Why do u want to be so obsessed with your identity. Everything that you see are either for or against your identity. U r obsessed with a thought which majority of the world doesnt believe.
What I find from your rantings is a man who is highly insecure about his identity, and wants to keep telling himself that I am this and that, in the process he demeans himself by trying to mock other race (country) by highlighting that they are of inferior abilities and intentions.
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I am not insecure, I know my identity very well... My posts are for my fellow Pakis who suffer from inferiority complexes and are trying to be Arab, White and lately Indian (all that false bolly glamour, real India is unwashed sadhus and rats) instead of being proud of who they are; Pakistani.

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This is so funny. I have never heard or read anyone saying South Asian Continent. It is always referred as Indian subcontinent. Dont make a big deal of it.
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You think too much of yourselves, the term "South-Asia" is widely used to refer to our region, far more often than "Indian-Subcontinent" which is a misnomer...

I agree the term "South-Asian Subcontinent" is not as common as the other two terms but it is used, if you don't believe me google it...

South-Asia is the best way of referring to our region... Like I said I've nothing against India but Pakis, Indians and the world need to recognise that Pakistan has an identity independent of India despite cultural similarities.

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Yes, I agree with the main hypothesis that the language of Indian Subcontinent would be Urdu-Hindi with lot of English vocabulary. Probably, its geographical confines would extend to Indus in the West and Bangla Desh in the East. The culture would become homogeneous like in Euprope with regional pecularities retained.

It would be like Europe today is rather probably more homogeneous.

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Pakistan is just a geographical name. It is not an identity based on culture. There are little chances for it to evolove as a separate culturo-civilizational entity. Over the time, Punjabis, Urdu-speaking Muhajirs, Siriakis, and other Indian people would relapse into the greater Indian sea.

The phenomenon is happening right now.

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The religion will be Islam, the languages will be Urdu and Arabic. Islamic laws will replace all secular man made laws and there will not be an inch of shelter for the latter! For this to be accomplished we muslims have to keep wearing our islamic identity on our shoulders and never let it be corrupted. But that will laregely be the state of the entire world, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world!

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^^ Syed, I want desis like you to be deported from Canada.. it's people like you that cause discrimination against all of us other browns..

You should quit secular canada and go live in sharia saudi..

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All the chinese sub-continent's language is going to be Putonghua or Mandarin. Oh did I say the Indian sub-continent will be chinese sub-continent?

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The Indian subcontinent is a large section of the Asian continent consisting of countries lying substantially on the Indian tectonic plate

the ocean below it is called indian ocean and not south asia ocean :cb:

because you are from pakistan you don’t want to use it as indian sub continenet otherwise it is generic term

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Other than language there is no part of culture, which is particular and differentiating to the South-Asian region anymore. Food, dress, music-genres, architecture, art etc. are (becoming) the same world over. The only reason we have linguistic similarities with north Indians is because the Sanskritic languages spoken in northern India have Pakistani roots (in the Vedic-Civilisation of Indus a.k.a. Ancient-Pakistan), thousands of years ago the north Indians discarded their own Dravidian languages and adopted the languages of the Indus (Ancient Pakistan) because they were conquered by Indusians (Ancient Pakistanis).

I disagree with you that everyone from Pak, India and Bangladesh will speak Urdu/Hindi… As much as Bollywood has done to promote a false pan-Indian image it still isn’t strong enough to change peoples languages, Bangladeshis have their own national language which is quite secure in their country, whilst it’s true that Hindi is the constitutional language of India most Indians can only speak English and their own state-language (Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam etc.) which usually has nothing to do with Hindi/Urdu, the only South-Indians who can understand Urdu/Hindi are those that have lived in Hyderabad or Mumbai…

The River Indus wont be the boundary for Urdu/Hindi, the language is loved, understood and spoken as far as Afghanistan, I think in Afghanistan Dari (Afghan Persian) will be the sole language in the future but in all of Pakistan, including NWFP/Baluchistan (not just east of the River Indus) the language will be Urdu/Hindi it is inevitable with it being our national language…

Sanskritic languages of Pakistan/Indus are Indo-Aryan languages not Dravidian so as well as racial similarities (as DNA testing has shown) we also have linguistic similarities with other Central-Asians/Indo-Aryans (Persians/Iranians etc.)… The only reason we have linguistic similarities with Indians is because they adopted our Indusian (Pakistani) languages we didn’t adopt their Indian languages.

Other than language we also have religious similarities with other Central-Asians as we’ve adopted same/similar religion, our traditional clothing (which I believe should now be discarded for cosmopolite attire i.e. pant-shirt) is also Central-Asian with roots in Iran (Sherwani), Afghanistan (Shalwar-Kameez), Uzbekistan (Gharara)… Everything that has come to be associated with India is actually foreign (be it language from Pak or dress from Iran/Afghan). Whilst Pakistanis have claim to both Indo-Aryan (Vedic) and Dravidian (Mohenjodaro-Harrappa) heritage as we’re a mixture descended from both, Indians are mostly pure Dravidian (except for a few NW Indians) so they can only claim to only the Dravidian history of their own land (not of the Indus/Pakistan such as Mohenjodaro/Harrappa), their Indo-Aryan language and religion was adopted from us rather than inherited from forefathers.

Despite linguistic simialrities nobody will relapse into the "greater Indian sea", America and Canada have the same language and even the same race (which we don't with India) yet they maintain their individual identities..

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Yeh Wikipedia hai aap ka dharma shastra naheen…

Just because soemthing is on Wikipedia does not mean it is written in stone… I couldn’t care less what the ocean is called but Pakistan is not part of anything “Indian”.. We have every right to be opposed to misnomers..

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this is for you and a neutral one.

http://www.harappa.com/script/diction.html

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Women's Shalwar Kameez however can be quite sexy and more elegant and stylish than any female-wear around the world so they should carry on wearing them

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Actually, here in the U.S. I've noticed that many popular women's tops are becoming much more "tunic-like." So South-East Asian fashions (at least for women) are spreading elsewhere!

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So you are saying that, we didn't eat or use tomatoes and potatoes like a century or two ago?

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America was discovered long before Columbus ever set foot on it...

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The religion will be Islam, the languages will be Urdu and Arabic. Islamic laws will replace all secular man made laws and there will not be an inch of shelter for the latter! For this to be accomplished we muslims have to keep wearing our islamic identity on our shoulders and never let it be corrupted. But that will laregely be the state of the entire world, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world!

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I'm sure that people of other religions have said the exact same thing. And, actually, this idea of your has already happened once before- with Christianity. It rose, and rose, and rose (and lots of people fought, and died, etc.)- and now its just kind of stagnant there at the top- and eventually it will go down. Then something new will come! And then it to will go down. The cycle will continue, as it has for a million years.

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I see little chances of that. There are factors that complicate the situation. Nobody would like an overgrown Hindustan that would include areas west of Indus. And Pakistan without being rooted in a distinct history has little chances of survival. Ultimately, it would lapse back into where it belongs.

You cannot undo the evolution. You cannot construct an identity artificially.