What Shias really think about Sunni Muslims

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Dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam, what I am going to show you is the truth about what the Shi’ites think of us Sunni Muslims, the Shi’ites may tell you that we are the same and that they love us but beware because the Shi’ites also believe that it is okay and that they will get lots of reward for lying to Sunni Muslims about what they beleive in…Below is the truth that the Shi’ites tried to hide from us for so long, it exposes the pure hatred that they hold against the Sunni Muslims. (the Shi’ites practise Taqayyah which means to conceal or lie about their beleifs, this is covered in the Article on this webpage called “The practice of lying in the Shi’ite faith”

Mohammed bin Al-hassan Toosi reports on the authority of Ishhaq bin Ammar, that Abu Abdullah said** “The wealth, the property and everything which belongs to a Sunni is actually yours (is legal for you)”** (Tahzib-ul Ahkam, Vol. 2 Kitabul Makasib, p. 116, published in Iran) above in this Shi’ites book it states that all Shi’ites can steal from any Sunni Muslim and that there is nothing wrong with that.

Moallah Khonas reported that Abdullah said “snatch the possessions of a Sunni whereever you find it and hand over my share (ie. One fifth) to me” (Tahzib ul Ahkam). Brothers and Sisters in Islam these Shi’ites think that they can steal our possessions and who knows what else they would like to do to us Sunni Muslims!

The Shi’ites say this regarding Sunni Muslims **“Although Allah, the Exalted, has not created a creature worse than a dog, yet a Nasbi (ie. A Sunni) is worse than even a dog.” **(Haqqul Yakeen (Persian) Vol 2, P. 516) Here the Shi’ites have said that Sunni Muslims are worse than Dogs!

The Shi’ites say that we will never go to Paradise!** “It is contained in several sources of information that they, (the assumed Imams of Shias) said: 'Should every angel that Allah, the Exalted and Gracious, has created, every prophet that Allah has appointed, every truthfull martyr, (collectively) pray to Allah, the Exalted and Gracious, to release a Nasbi (a Sunni) from the Hell, Allah would never release him.”** (Haqqul-Yaqeen, (Arabic), Vol. 2 P. 192) This is what the Shi’ites realy think about us!!! They say that if anyone who is a Sunni Mulim will go to Hell!!! Don’t these Shi’ites know what they are sayying???

This is what the Shi’ites say what will happen when their so-called Imams will return “When Qaem alaihissalam appears, he will start slaughtering Sunnis and their Ulema before slaughtering the infidels (kaffar).” (By the term “Quem” the Shi’ites mean Imam Mahdi, their twelfth Imam) So here the Shi’ites state that we are not Muslims, and that we are worse than the infidels (kaffar)

So dear Brothers and Sisters, how can the Shi’ites expect us to be freinds with them when they Insult us and call us Kaffar behind our backs. So when a Shi’ite Insults a Sunni he is also Insulting all the Schollars and all of those pious people in Islam, can’t these Shi’ites see what is wrong with their own beleifs???
May Allah Guide the Shi’ites to True Islam, and May Allah show us what the Shi’ites really are, Ameen

by: Abu Sufyan

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It would be the height of one's naivete to assume that shias are like our brothers. Far from it, they are like a poisonous arrow waiting to peirce us at an opportune moment. Going deep in their beliefs, one finds traces of manifest shirk, eulogizing hazrat Ali (radhi Allah anho) above all beings ignoring Rasool Allah (sallalaho alaihe wasalam) and even some sects believe in him as God incarnate. This sect is founded upon the hatred of sahaba who were at the forefront of disintegrating persian empire and subjugating it under Islamic rule. That is the reason they hate hazrat Umar (Radhi Allah anho) so much since Iran was conquered during his caliphate. I consider them as having a reactionary doctrine that evolved out of a sense of racial and cultural superiority over the arabs. They could never really come to the terms that how could the very arabs whom the entire world had come to despise before Islam will subjugate an empire so vast and so magnificent as theirs. Although, the main person behind this entire conspiracy was a jew from yemen known in the history as Hasan ibn-e-Sabah, yet this doctrine struck a resonant chord with people who bore a grudge against Islam and its proponents. Being weak, they could not wage a war of numbers or strength against the sahaba so they conspired to split the muslim unity asunder by playing upon their emotions. Although they claim to be on hazrat Hussein's (radhi Allah anho) side yet ask them what were they doing at the time of his battle with the enemy? Ask them who martyred hazrat Ali (radhi Allah anho)? Undoubtedly, they have betrayed true muslims before and nothing new can be expected of them now.

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Iqadeer,
You don't get it do you! If you are going to quote which is relevant to the debate then, quote from sources agreed by both shia & sunni scholars.

Pls do not bore me with your 'ONE-SIDED assertions' - means nothing to me!

Again, I must say to you:
" Silly people with their silly delusions."

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bismihi Ta'la
assalam o alaikum ...

Mr Extreme as usual is back, but this time he has committed to the same mistake in an exchange with him in April-May 1999, over the same issue.

My friend, the term in all of these texts is not sunni, but it is infact a nasibi. while their is ample evidence over the ignorance of the author, where he translated a nasibi as a sunni, in fact, nasibis in islamic history was a termed assinged to those who hated the ahl al bayt. Aisha Bewley in her book Glossary of Islamic Terms, pp191, Ta Ha Publishers defines Nasibi as

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One of the Nawasib
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and thus defines the Nawasib as

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a group of people who go to extremes in their dislike of Ali or his family ..
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does that make matters as clear as this bold inscription?

Allahuma Salle Ala Muhammadin Wa Ale Muhammad

[This message has been edited by AliAbbas (edited January 13, 2000).]

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The fate of those who **love* and hate the ahl al bayt*

*bismihi Ta'la
assalam o alaikum *

The Messenger of Allah (sallalahu alaihas salams) said:

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He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is a Martyr.

And behold! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is forgiven.

And more! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died repented.

Lo! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died as a believer with a complete belief.

And no doubt! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, the angle of death gives him the glad tiding of Paradise, and so do the two angels who question him (Munkar & Nakeer).

And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, will be led toward the Paradise as the bride is led to the house of her husband.

Behold! And he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, for him there will open two gates in his grave toward the Paradise.

Lo! And the one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, Allah will make his grave a sacred place of visit for the angels of mercy.

And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, has died on Sunnah.

And no doubt! The one who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, will arrive in the day of judgment while it is printed on his forehead that he is desperate from the Mercy of Allah.

Behold! He who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, has died unbeliever.

And verily he who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, will never smell of Paradise.
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References:

Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Din Muhammad Ibn Umar al-Razi, Pub. in Egypt (1357/1938), under commentary of verse 42:23, Part 27, pp. 165-166.
Tafsir al-Kashshaf, by al-Zamakhshari
Tafsir al-Kabir, by al-Tha'labi

Also, The Messenger of Allah said:

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"Acknowledgment of ale Muhammad (the family of Muhammad) means salvation from the fire, and love for them is a passport for crossing the bridge of the sirat, and obedience to them is a protection from divine wrath."
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(Kitab al-Shafa, Qadhi 'Iyad, published in 1328 AH, v2, p40 [Arabic] and p241 [English] , Yanabi al-Mawadda, al-Qunduzi al-Hanafi, section 65, p370)

Allahuma Salle Ala Muhammadin Wa Ale Muhammad

[This message has been edited by AliAbbas (edited January 13, 2000).]

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Brave attempt Aliabbas, but your Shia compatriots wowyi and 2Pak seem to back up what is said by my article.

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Huh! Hold the Press! Xtreme says - I back what Xtreme has been saying! Huh! Can cows fly !!

Xtreme has been using diversionary tactics to steer people away from the main topic of Sunni betrayal of the holy Prophet (PBUH&HF); now, he is trying to create a rift among shias -- Silly man, Extreme. Pls stick to things that you do best, i.e. Copy & Paste, Copy & Paste .......

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[quote]
Originally posted by AliAbbas:
*The Messenger of Allah (*sallalahu alaihas salams) said:

He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is a Martyr.

And behold! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is forgiven.

And more! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died repented.

Lo! He who dies with love of the family of Muhammad is died as a believer with a complete belief.

And no doubt! The one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, the angle of death gives him the glad tiding of Paradise, and so do the two angels who question him (Munkar & Nakeer).

And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, will be led toward the Paradise as the bride is led to the house of her husband.

Behold! And he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, for him there will open two gates in his grave toward the Paradise.

Lo! And the one who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, Allah will make his grave a sacred place of visit for the angels of mercy.

And verily he who dies with love of the family of Muhammad, has died on Sunnah.
]**
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Sunnis love Prophet Muhammad SAW, Hazrat Ali RA, Hazrat Hassan, Hazrat Hussain, Hazrat Fatima, and all their descendants who worked in the path of Allah SWT. So do the shias :)

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**And no doubt! The one who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, will arrive in the day of judgment while it is
printed on his forehead that he is desperate from the Mercy of Allah.

Behold! He who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, has died unbeliever.

And verily he who dies with the hate of the family of Muhammad, will never smell of Paradise. **
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Sunnis still love all the family members of Prophet Muhammad SAW.
However, as you have seen from numerous posts from some shias, their hatred is clear for:
Ummul Momineen, Hazrat Aisha RA (Wife of Prophet SAW, hence his family)
Umul Momineen, Hazrat Hifsa RA, (Wife of Prophet Muhammad SAW, hence his family)
Khaleefa-e-awal, Hazrat AbuBakr RA, (his father in law, hence his family)
Khalifa-e-sani, Hazrat Umar Farooq RA, (his father in law, hence his family)

Again, who's the target of the waeed that Prophet SAW sent in his above quoted Hadees?

[This message has been edited by Akif (edited January 14, 2000).]

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Yea and we also make fun of you guys when you have ur hands around ur fat bellies and shaking ur heads saying Allah Who? It's like ur asking if Allah has a last name. LOL

You can hate me now....
But I won't stop now....