1.After 9/11 mulsims with beard lost repect in the whole world a lot of men clean shaved themselves.
2.Osama stayed in Afghanistan and Americans attacked Afghanistan, then he shifted to Pakistan and Americans attacked Pakistan.
3.Osama had no vision, no planning, no policy and no friends, not able to convince about his complicated ideology other than few individuals. In modern world, it’s not easy to survive without allies.
4.He declared a war with Americans and in war people fight, donot hide,if he was brave why he was was hiding.
5.Taliban (which was supported by Al-Qaida) attacked mosques and Muslim people in Pakistan but drugs business,beer bars,nude dancing clubs and brothels are safe in all around world.
6.Two countries Afghanistan and Iraq are suffering after Osama’s 9/11 attack and are under extreme war while Pakistan is highly in danger.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Osama was a megalomaniac who wanted more power and was kicked out of his home country because he wanted to have his own private army there. I see nothing positive for anyone that this character accomplished or wanted.
He had resources at his disposal, had a brain, had some charisma, why did he not use it to declare war on poverty, illiteracy, social injustice, economic and industrial infrastructure gaps, healthcare gaps.
why...because he did not give a damn about people, and the morons who support him dont get it...jackholes
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Yep like Bill Gates is using his hard earned money for the just causes as you mentioned. May be the difference is that OBL did not earn money the hard way as Bill Gates did.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Osama gave pakistanis the gift of 30,000 dead innocent civilians and more than 5000 dead soldiers. Yet there are plenty of Pakistanis who are mourning his death.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Osama gave pakistanis the gift of 30,000 dead innocent civilians and more than 5000 dead soldiers. Yet there are plenty of Pakistanis who are mourning his death.
He did a lot more damage than 35,000 deaths. The reputation we have now will not be restored even by another 35,000 innocent lives.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
In my opinion
1.After 9/11 mulsims with beard lost repect in the whole world a lot of men clean shaved themselves.
2.Osama stayed in Afghanistan and Americans attacked Afghanistan, then he shifted to Pakistan and Americans attacked Pakistan.
3.Osama had no vision, no planning, no policy and no friends, not able to convince about his complicated ideology other than few individuals. In modern world, it’s not easy to survive without allies.
4.He declared a war with Americans and in war people fight, donot hide,if he was brave why he was was hiding.
5.Taliban (which was supported by Al-Qaida) attacked mosques and Muslim people in Pakistan but drugs business,beer bars,nude dancing clubs and brothels are safe in all around world.
6.Two countries Afghanistan and Iraq are suffering after Osama's 9/11 attack and are under extreme war while Pakistan is highly in danger.
People specially Pakistanis shouldn't think so much about him, he was just another CIA creation gone out of control. He is meaningless for Pakistan, we should have avoided him and kept him away from Pakistan at all costs which we failed to do. It's like we took someones else's **** on us and took blame for all his actions.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Osama gave pakistanis the gift of 30,000 dead innocent civilians and more than 5000 dead soldiers. Yet there are plenty of Pakistanis who are mourning his death.
good point
there are the ones openly mourning and then we have all kinds of conspiracy theorists..
he was not real
he was an agent
he is not dead
he died years ago
that was not him
those kinds of things, but I dont see this kind going and telling the type you just noted to give it up...because he was a mole, or is not dead, or died ages ago. As if others cant see through their convoluted mental acrobatics..
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
I am not a fan of OBL but some questions are unrelated to his existence, his actions or his terrorism, or incorrectly dragged/used because of his terrorism.
Lets be honest, those people were probably looking for an excuse, there are many people who accepted Islam AFTER 9/11 and there are people probably left Islam AFTER 9/11.
A criminal has no country, no boundary, no care of human lives so he just ran where he thought he would be safer.
That is what he was taught by CIA during Afghan war, how to be “mujahid” i.e. ‘attack, run and hide’ and this is what he did and his comrades/partner-in-crimes are still doing.
A mafia also runs out of man-power you know
Well, yes Afghanistan and Iraq are suffering because of 9/11 but we all know the invasion of both countries was result of arrogance, lies and deceipt (?) of …
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Wow! Everyone's blaming Bin Laden, but not a word against America.
What about 6 Million innocent Muslims America killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.?
Who's going to talk about them?
This Ummat needs to unite against the enemies of Islam.
The ummah needs to reform itself to be able to call itself "ummah", need to take care of disease within before tackling outsiders... one baby step at a time.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Al-Qaida and OBL is plague which have destroyed Pakistan... i do not agree that Pakistani agencies army have harbored OBL and Al-Qaida... this menace is purely from the Arab world and top leadership of Al-Qaida simply hates Pakistan and all of its institution... they have called war against US and have been hitting Pakistan tells us about their knowledge of geography, somebody needs to tell them that Pakistan is not US, America is on the other side of the world... you want to fight them then go an challenge them.. why fighting us... we are the nation who hates US the most and has been targeted by Al-Qaida ( the so-called enemy of US) the most... why didn't Al-Zahrawi did any resistance ( thats what they call it when they kill innocent Pakistani praying in the mosque or shopping out-doors) in Egypt the govt who not only supports US but provide whatever logistic support Israel may need to kill Palestinians... Why Did'nt this Saudi ***tard rose arms against its own King? who has supported US all the way along... Why didn't Al-Yemini challenged Yemen Govt??? these good for nothing terrorists have targeted Pakistan because in general we as a nation Hate US and whoever does that, is enemy number one for Al-Qaida... that is evident from the operations Al-Qaida do
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
The purpose of analyzing Osama and his ideology is to tell the people that war is not solution to bring the peace.There were other better options available to Osama but he adopted the most worst and complicated solution to solve the problems.We have to be more careful in future while trusting people like Osama.He was an idiot, time has proved now.
Wow! Everyone's blaming Bin Laden, but not a word against America.
What about 6 Million innocent Muslims America killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.?
Who's going to talk about them?
This Ummat needs to unite against the enemies of Islam.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
Wow! Everyone's blaming Bin Laden, but not a word against America.
What about 6 Million innocent Muslims America killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.?
Who's going to talk about them?
This Ummat needs to unite against the enemies of Islam.
This is not hidden anymore that Americans and Al-Qaida are doing same thing with different names and styles.Americans are 100 times more worst than Osama may be more.But Osama with his stupid ideology and thinking provided the way to Americans to perform the ugly adventures in Afghanistan and iraq. Americans were already planning to do this but they were looking for some better opportunity . Which Paper hero Mr.Osama provided in a very short step.Thanks to the people of Pakistan who got rid of Musharaf because he was going to be the next example like Osama and Saddam.Musharaf was eliminated from govt in American friendship days.Other wise Americans next move was to prove him American enemy and then to destruct the whole country just for one man.Just like they destructed Afg for osama and Iraq for Saddam.I have no 2nd opinion about Americans, the fact is Americans are the most ugly nation on the planet.
Re: What Osama gave to Islamic world and specially to Pakistan??? Pls comment
If you read about the life of the prophet PBUH, one thing is very telling. A leader knows where and when to fight, a leader knows when he must compromise, and leader understands his limitations and is pragmatic in his assesment.
The problem with OBL, who asspired to be a leader, was that his only strategy was to beat people over the head, and inflict as much death as possible. He had no concept of strategy what so ever. Whatever his motiviation was, or his goal, he had a limited understanding of global politics. The only thing he was good for was leading sheep to slaughter.
For me, he had no redeeming qualities. He was simply a fool with some money and a gun.
