what my Hindu friend answered.....

My hindu classmate and I were talking …actually picking on each other other. (friendly fire , we have never meant to offend each other) anyway, I asked him about the concept of many gods, and of them appearing in different forms, like cows, snakes and sometimes human beings.

and his answer was that their God has multiple personality disorder…

On one other occassion I asked him why does he eat beef??? he said that " gao mata to India main hay, main to sirf american gay (cow) khata hoon.
So only indian cows are consider sacred or all cows???

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He was having fun!! I recommend you do the same.
Muslims take Religion too seriously!!!

Have Fun!!

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may be because other religions especially Hinduism lacks seriousness???


May Allah SWT guide us all towards right and help us follow the right

Well, christians are same. Budhhists are worse.

Well Andhra from your reply it seems that you think all religions apart from Islam are a joke?

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a perfect example of seriousness…

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plz give an explanation of the philosophy behind the multiplicity of gods

I know that was a joke, but a smart joke. I have many Indian friends and we get along well. They are nice people, I wonder what kind of people come in this forum. So different than the hindu and sikh friends I have.

Andhra dude, give it a rest.

secret obsession, many hindus eat beef even in india. it's a big deal only in some parts.

dcotornaveed, what is the philosophy behind having just one god? if you can agree with the idea that there can be one, cant there be more than one?

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AoA, according to my Hindu friend, there's basically one God Brahman. Rest are his different forms and that there's a little/some God or characteristics of Brahman in everything. Plus, they worship the same God Brahman in different forms...whatever the form they think is the best for their supplications.

Ibrahim says hindus consider it “ brilliance” for a hindu to spin their way out of anything and everything. ( does not matter who he/she slanders, mocks or lies about it that process) . Hence what you have noted is common practice for a hindu and other hindus will praise that person as having came up with a brilliant reply/idea.

In this manner, I have came across this same answer from other hindus too. Why you eat beef? He will tell you only Indian cows are sacred

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Anyway this will tell you how idiotic a hindu can be.

Friday, 13 July, 2001, 15:02 GMT 16:02 UK ( BBC)

** Hindu sues after cow used in op**

** A Hindu woman has won £4,000 in damages after surgeons used “sacred” cow cartilage in her operation. **

The educational administrator said she would have never consented to the operation if she had known doctors were going to use parts of the cow, which is sacred to her religion.
And she has fought a six year battle to get the out-of-court settlement.

The ** 34-year-old woman,** who has not been named, said her doctors at Sunderland City Hospitals NHS Trust never told her about the use of the cattle in the operation.
Sacred cow

** "I am not religious but as a Hindu the cow is sacred, and you are not supposed to do anything that will be seen to be sacrilegious to the animal.

“Inserting a part of a cow in your body would certainly be seen as that. It would be completely frowned upon.” **

She said that she had always been self conscious about a small lump on the bridge of her nose and the fact that it bent slightly.

Ibrahim,

i didnt see "how idiotic a hindu can be" from your cut and paste. however, i must express my condolences to the community to which you are an Imam. such cheap slander from a spiritual leader of islam, which claims to be a tolerant religion, is most deplorable.

is it any wonder that with foul-mouthed leaders like you, Islam has a bad name?

-queer-

"kill the idolators wherever you find them"

tell me can you do that without violating
any law
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so ibrahim relax . don take religen serioulsy

The Holy Quran clearly commands:

"So when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters, wherever you
find them" - Holy Quran: Chapter 9, Verse 5.

Can we, in accordance with the above verse, kill any idolater?

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smart reply

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**"kill the idolators wherever you find them"

Can we, in accordance with the above verse, kill any idolater?

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Another 'ayah' taken out of context by our dear friend rvikz here.

9:6 *6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge. *

The ayah clearly states, IF you are in war, you MUST stop all fighting for the holy months, however once the months are over, you fight those who fight YOU. We are NEVER told to go on a killing spree dear friend. And if the ones who fight you ask for peace, give it to them.

Ibrahim says: That is because to you that women’s actions sounds right and to me it is idiotic, since hindus themselves eat beef and it is approved in the hindu scriptures to eat meat from the cow and use it products too. Here she was helped by the doctors and instead of being greatful she sued them, only an idoit would do that becuse the spare parts comes from cows. .

Ibrahim says. Why make silly statements like this, when you have no idea who I am? But since you prefer to be a DUNG beetle, I do excuse you.

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Jazak Allahu Khair Brother Ace, jus to make it more clearer

Forwarding..........

By ** Dr. Zakir Naik **
Islamic Research Foundation

** Violence in the Qur'an? **

A few selected verses from the Qur'an are often misquoted to perpetuate the myth that Islam promotes violence, and exhorts its followers to kill those outside the pale of Islam.

  1. Verse from Surah Taubah :

The following verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

"Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, kafirs) where ever you find them." [Al-Qur'an 9:5]

  1. Context of verse is during battlefield :

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriqs (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriqs of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriqs of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them.

Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful." [Al-Qur'an 9:5] This verse is quoted during a battle.

  1. Example of war between America and Vietnam :

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: "Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them". Today if I say that the American President said, "Wherever you find Vietnamese, kill them" without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.

  1. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle:

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur'an says, "Kill the Mushriqs where ever you find them", during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur'an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don't be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.

  1. Shourie jumps from verse 5 to verse 7 :

Arun Shourie(An Indian Journalist) is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatwahs', on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realise that he has skipped verse 6.

  1. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer :

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed.

It says:

** "If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum,grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge." ** [Al-Qur'an 9:6]

The Qur'an not only says that a Mushriq seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don't just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security? This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur'an to promote peace in the world.

By Dr. Zakir Naik
Islamic Research Foundation

** Why would people deliberately quote verses out of context, if they were truly trying to promote truth and understanding? What does this say about their motives?**

Ibrahim says: That is because to you that women’s actions sounds right and to me it is idiotic, since hindus themselves eat beef and it is approved in the hindu scriptures to eat meat from the cow and use it products too. Here she was helped by the doctors and instead of being greatful she sued them, only an idoit would do that becuse the spare parts comes from cows. .

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, and as compare to that what a realistic religion Islam is. In the ayeat where ALlaha forbid to eat pork, he also meantioned that in some cirumstances we can, foexample if there isnt anything else to eat. Islam is a liberal religion and it truly understands human needs. Does not bound them in unrealistic and filthy rules.

as long as you hold such dumb superiority complexes, you guys are gonna stay in the pits. enuff said.

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as long as you hold such dumb superiority complexes, you guys are gonna stay in the pits. enuff said.**
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There is a joke on hindhu multiple gods

one there a hindhu a muslim and a christian was travelling in a flight and the flight going to crash due to some problem

then the christian prayed for christ "oh jesus save me" and jesus came and saved
and muslims prayed and allah came and saved

atlast hindhu prayed

oh rama save me
rama was about to come to save him
then the hindhu suddently told
oh siva save me
then rama think that siva will save him
and siva think that rama will save him and nobody saved and he died


as far i as know beef in indian sense is buffalo not cow
hindus eat buffalos(only some remote parts of india at borders and NE states and in kerala) and nepal also people eat beef(buffalo)