What makes a person wear a taveez?
Please try to answer from the view of a taveez wearer NOT your own view (whether it’s haram etc). Like under what circumstances one opts to get a taveez.
Secondly, islamically speaking does the taveez have any effect on the person.
Thirdly, Is there also something such as harmful taveez?
Forthly what reasons would there be for a person to hide the taveez he/she wears from others.
Thanks.
Re: What makes a person wear a taveez?
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**What makes a person wear a taveez?*
Please try to answer from the view of a taveez wearer NOT your own view (whether it's haram etc). Like under what circumstances one opts to get a taveez.
Secondly, islamically speaking does the taveez have any effect on the person.
Thirdly, Is there also something such as harmful taveez?
Forthly what reasons would there be for a person to hide the taveez he/she wears from others.
Thanks.
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Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever hangs up an amulet is guilty of shirk." (Reported by Ahmad, 4/156; see also Silsilat al-Saheehah, no. 492).
Praise be to Allaah._
It is not permissible to tie this string or any other kind of amulets. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever hangs up an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need.”
And he said: “Whoever hangs up anything will be abandoned to its care,” and, “Whoever hangs up an amulet has committed shirk.” _
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded us to tear away these things, as stated in the hadeeth narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn, which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a man on whose hand was a bracelet of brass. He said, “What is this bracelet?” He said, “It is to prevent weakness.” He said, “Take it off, for it will only make you more weak.” This was narrated by Ibn Maajah. _
And Allah(SWT) knows best.
Shaykh Waleed al-Firyaan (www.islam-qa.com)
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Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever hangs up an amulet is guilty of shirk." (Reported by Ahmad, 4/156; see also Silsilat al-Saheehah, no. 492).
Praise be to Allaah._
It is not permissible to tie this string or any other kind of amulets. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever hangs up an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need.”
And he said: “Whoever hangs up anything will be abandoned to its care,” and, “Whoever hangs up an amulet has committed shirk.” _
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded us to tear away these things, as stated in the hadeeth narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn, which says that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a man on whose hand was a bracelet of brass. He said, “What is this bracelet?” He said, “It is to prevent weakness.” He said, “Take it off, for it will only make you more weak.” This was narrated by Ibn Maajah. _
And Allah(SWT) knows best.
Shaykh Waleed al-Firyaan (www.islam-qa.com)
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I repeat my question which you have not answered:-
What makes a person wear a taveez?
Please try to answer from the view of a taveez wearer NOT your own view (whether it's haram etc). Like under what circumstances one opts to get a taveez.
Btw, is Silsilat al-Saheehah a hadith or what?
believing that certain things can bring benefit when the Creator has not made them so. For example. some people believe in amulets and spells, or wearing certain types of pearls or seashells or metal earrings and so on, on the advice of fortune-tellers or magicians or in accordance with inherited customs. So they hang them around their own or their children’s necks to ward off the evil eye - or so they claim; or they tie them onto their bodies or hang them in their cars and homes, or wear rings with special stones, thinking that these things can relieve or ward off distress. This without a doubt is contrary to the idea of relying on Allaah, and will only result in making a person even more weak, like seeking medicine in a haraam way. These amulets obviously contain much shirk, such as seeking the help of some jinns and devils, or vague drawings and illegible writing. Some of these liars even write aayaat from the Qur’aan, or mix them with words of shirk, or write them with impure substances such as menstrual blood. Hanging up these amulets or tying them to one’s body is haraam because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever hangs up an amulet is guilty of shirk.” (Reported by Ahmad, 4/156; see also Silsilat al-Saheehah, no. 492).
If the one who does this believes that these things can cause benefit or harm instead of Allaah, he is a mushrik who is guilty of al-shirk al-akbar. If he believes that they are a means of causing benefit or harm, then he is a mushrik who is guilty of al-shirk al-asghar, which includes shirk that consists of attributing causes to things other than Allaah.
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Little Human, very good question. A definite answer to this from someone knowledgable would be great.
As for my understanding, there is no mention of any taveez or things to hang from your neck either in the Quran or the Sunnah…And if it’s not mentioned in the Quran or the Sunnah it’s a Bidah…
Secondly, some taveez use black magic and stuff which is totally against Islam…
Third, when the Holy Prophet :saw: was stricken with magic, he recited the four Quls. No taveez or anything there…
Also:
Assalam Aleekum
You have provided complete information.
take care
The effectiveness of Taveez is proved by centuries of experience and a large number of pious men including Imam Shah Waliullah and Ashraf Ali Thanvi used to treat people with Taveezes. The only thing to remember while using a Taveez is that it is only a means. Health and sickness, good or bad is in the hands of Allah.
Astagfirullah. taweez type things are well known in Pak and India.
The question that we should ask did Prophet Muhammad(May Allah's
peace and blessings be upon him).
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I repeat my question which you have not answered:-
What makes a person wear a taveez?
Answer: Lack of Faith on Allah(swt).
Acha rehman1
theek 
I know you think it’s shirk but what I want to know is what makes some people where it - try to answer from the view of a taveez wearer NOT your own view (whether it’s haram etc). Like under what circumstances one opts to get a taveez.
Like you said :
It seems like you mean they just want to ward off evil(with the help of Allah[throught those strings etc]) rather then not have faith in Allah
I dont’ think the person would say “o I don’t have faith in Allah let me go for the strings” 
It seems like they would relate the strings to Allah.
The question that we should ask did Prophet Muhammad(May Allah’s
peace and blessings be upon him).
^ I don’t get you.
and lajawab, as per to what you have said seems like there are harmful taveez as well.
And to both of you :
Islamically speaking does the taveez have any effect on the person. Do they have actual effects especially the harmful ones?
Also, what reasons would there be for a person to hide the taveez he/she wears from others.
i wear a taviz around my neck. moreso as a gesture of attachment to my mother than faith. she made it herself six years ago.
it just contains a waterproofed copy of ayat ul kursi which she wrote herself. she believes it will ward off evil.
i dont know if it has or not. but anything that potentially could keep me from evil is a good thing, no?
No. Some things have an inherent quality of having the opposite effect of what is desired. No matter what the sentimental value of that taveez would be for you, you should let your mother know it has no place in Islam. And you should tell her…It is your duty as a son to tell her, just like the Holy Prophet :saw: asked his uncle to become Muslim…After that it’s between her and Allah :swt:…
ofcourse thats if you can convince me that wearing an ayat around your neck is all that evil as you say it is.
Thing is I can’t even convince you that holding a candle in one hand and an alam in the other and jumping up and down reciting the Quran is evil…The matter is doing what was never meant to be done…That is why Islam places such strict restrictions upon innovations and expels one from the fold of Islam if one introduces it, hence the care and caution to be exercised in avoiding mistakes and unintentional Bidah…
I know as well as you that the taveez your mother gave you was not out of ill-intent and neither is it evil…But with what intention it was given…To protect you and ward off evil by using the words of Quran…Now look in the Quran and Ahadith of any instance where this was done by any Prophet or our own Prophet :saw:…
The Quran speaks about the people, who thought they were doing great good by doing somethings and becoming closer to Allah :swt:, but in reality, they were straying to the point where they were evicted from their respective faiths by Allah :swt:…Get my point?
True dat. I’ve been convinced and reconvinced and deconvinced of everything that can wear a shoe on its right leg. Im not convinced of anything in particular. In answer to your bidah point, there are also those who see puritans reading too much into the form of Islam at the point, and the inherently arabic culture the Prophet and early Islam belonged to, and missing out on the spirit and spirituality of the religion. There is that saying that I love…When you show the moon to a child, all it sees is your finger.
I concede however, that this is little bearing on what you’re saying, which I understand, is that there is little precedent in the Prophets actions of taviz. I come to that a little later.
And you are sure that you couldnt be one of those people?
The Quran asks us to seek ways of approach Him. Yes, to you that could be the prophetic way, to shias that could mean the imams, to me it might mean something around my neck physically reminding me of who I am everytime my mind rambles towards baser stuff.
I dont know.
^^ Look Ravage…At one time I thought that the ‘Puritans’ were the ones making a colorful and wonderful religion like Islam so boring and tasteless…Later I discovered that though Allah :swt: created the world, he hated it…Yep, Allah :swt: has despised the world in many words and told us Muslims that this is not for us, so to attain a great reward in the hereafter go through it like as if you are a stranger in a new town…Be ready to pack your bags…
So my friend, I for one wouldn’t want to fall into a cesspool which Allah :swt: has hated…Those that come to love it are welcome to it and embellish it and make it as beautiful as they want and work hard at it…I’d rather be considered a ‘Puritan’ for my views than try to embellish my faith with something that has no basis anywhere, either in the Quran or the Sunnah and be deprived of a better hereafter…I’d rather just do as I am told, why more?
Truth is the funniest thing and most fun to wield…An art however lost on me that’s why you see me so boorish…
I swear I was going somewhere with all of this…
Tis not our place to be where Allah is, or to say if He loves what he created, or if He hated it. He created us so that He might be known.
He created us as an expression of His unrealised potential. The angels worshipped Him forever before us, the angels worship Him still, moreso than us.
He is the artist. Surely His expression in us wouldnt limit human diversity of culture, race to that single arabic culture that the Prophet lived in? Submit to Him, yes, but as yourself, as who you are. Not as that stereotype that we become when we adopt strict puritanism, from the arabic style hijab to the arabic pronounciation we strive for.
Truth might be funny to weild, I guess what defines me is a belief that I am probably wrong. Because if everything about me was upon absolute truth already there wouldnt be reason for me to keep going.
The following site may bring some more interesting issues in this regard - a practice of Sufi-ism also backed up by ahadeeth and reference to Quran…
http://aqibfarid.tripod.com/786.htm
Maulanaa Yousuf Ludhiyanvi Shaheed (Former Naaib Ameer of Tahaffuz-e-Khatam-e-Nubuwat:saw:, Karachi, Pakistan) in his weekly session of *“App kay masaail aur unn kaa hull” * in a Friday Jang Newspaper, once said that if Quranic verses are used in “Taaweez” then there is no harm using it, consider it SHIRK, otherwise.
Wallah-O-Alam…
the ppl i know that wear taweez wear it bcos they think its going to protect them from nazar/theyre cancer etcetc
mostly its just cultural issues
personally i dont agree with it
It was narrated from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir al-Juhani that a group came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) [to swear their allegiance (bay’ah) to him]. He accepted the bay’ah of nine of them but not of one of them. They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, you accepted the bay’ah of nine but not of this one.” He said, “He is wearing an amulet.” The man put his hand (in his shirt) and took it off, then he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) accepted his bay’ah. He said, ‘Whoever wears an amulet has committed shirk.”
(Narrated by Ahmad, 16969)
This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah, 492
Like under what circumstances one opts to get a taveez.
Allah (swt ), says:
" Nor call on any besides Allah, such can neither profit you, nor hurt you. If you do, then you will surely be one of the zalimun" (Qur'an 10:106)
In this verse, Allah (swt ), Most Glorified, Most High, forbids His Prophet, Muhammad (saas ) - and the forbiddance applies to the whole Ummah - from performing acts of worship, in particular supplication for any other besides Allah (swt ), because none beside Him possesses power to benefit or harm. Then Allah (swt ) informs His Prophet (saas ) that should he do so, he would be one of the Zalimun, i.e. the polytheists
Allah (swt), says:
" If Allah does not touch you with hurt, there is none can remove it but He: If He designs some benefit for you, there is none can keep back His Favour: He causes it to reach whomsoever of His slaves He wills, and He is the Most Forgiving, Most Merciful" (Qur'an10:107)
Allah (swt ), says:
" You do naught but worship idols besides Allah, and you invent falsehood. The things that you worship besides Allah have no power to give you sustenance: Then seek you sustenance from Allah, worship Him and be grateful to Him: To Him will you return" (Qur'an 29:17)
Allah (swt ), Most Glorified, Most High tells us in this verse about Prophet Ibraheem (as ), how he made clear to his people the truth concerning the idols which they worshipped, that they possessed no power to harm or to benefit, and that they had invented a lie by attributing such powers to them, for goodness may only be sought from Allah (swt ), and from none other; and that He, Alone is the One Who has the right to be worshipped, and to be praised and Who deserves our gratitude because all creatures will return to Him when they die; then they will be resurrected and they will receive the recompense of their deeds.
Allah (swt ), says:
" Is not He [better than your gods] Who responds to the distressed one, when he calls Him, and Who removes the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth [generation after generation], is there any deity with Allah? Little it is that you bear in mind [the warning]" (Qur'an 27:62)
Allah (swt ), Most High, defines some of the Attributes which are purely for Him, and nobody else, such as responding to those in dire straits, lifting harm from them and protecting mankind. Then Allah (swt ), Most Glorified, Most High, makes clear that those who will not be warned by this, nor fear the consequences, and do not worship Allah (swt ), Alone, will not heed any warning.
Benefits Derived From This Verse
That making one's du'aa` 1 purely for Allah will ensure its acceptance.
Confirmation of the blessing of Du'aa`.
That goodness and evil are within Allah's power.
Proof of Tawheed of worship through Tawheed of Rabbship.
That Allah (swt ) answers the Du'aa` of the distressed and the oppressed.
Knowledge of Allah (swt ) through the fitrah.
Relevance of This Verse to the Subject
That the verse proves that none can answer the oppressed or the distressed except Allah (swt ), Most Glorified, Most High, because Du'aa` is a form of worship and dedicating an act of worship to other than Allah (swt ) is Shirk.
"brother take it off becouse it want help at all actualy it will hurt you becouse thats is only a piece of letter/ metal or in what ever is writen on and Allah speech is not to be used as the mushriks /idol worsiper do having somthing repsresnting Allah or this is from allah and it will protect me no it wont until you ask Allah to protect by reciting the Quran or the dua but not by writing it down in letter and keeping in your neck."
It is an Act of Shirk to Wear Rings or Threads
or the Like as a Means of Prevention or Lifting of Afflictions
Allah (swt ), says:
" Say: "Tell me then, the things that you invoke besides Allah - if Allah intended some harm to me, could they remove His harm, or if He intended some mercy for me, could they withhold His Mercy?" Say: "Sufficient for me is Allah; in Him those who trust [the true Believers] must put their trust."" (Qur'an 39:38)
In this verse, Allah (swt ), Most Glorified, Most High commands His Prophet, Muhammad (saas ) to reject those powerless, graven images worshipped by the polytheists, which can neither remove any harm which might befall a person by Allah's Decree, nor prevent any sustenance or blessings which might come to a person from Him. Then He commands him to place his trust in Allah (swt ), for He is Sufficient to bring benefit or prevent harm for all who sincerely depend upon Him.
"Let not any necklace of bowstring, or any other kind of necklace remain on the necks of your camels, except that it is cut off." Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim.
It is reported on the authority of Abdullah IbnUkaim (ra ) in a marfoo' form: "Whoever wore something 5 (around his neck) will be put in its charge." (Narrated by Ahmad and At-Tirmizi)
Abdullah IbnUkaim (ra ) tells us that the Prophet (saas ) informed him that whoever needed something, he should entrust his affair to Allah (swt ), and that whoever depended upon Allah (swt ), Alone to fulfill his needs, Allah (swt ) will relieve his distress and make his affairs easy, but whoever depended upon something other than Allah (swt ), and entrusted his affairs to it, will be left in its charge, i.e. he will have no help from Allah (swt ), because it is only by the Hand of Allah (swt ) that goodness is achieved, and none but He can benefit