What Islamic Ummah?

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What Islamic Ummah?

@Bobby1

Although you make some very strong arguments but the society has a right to declare what cannot be said, mind you i moderation. In France you cannot make anti semitic statements. In certain countries you cannot deny holocaust and certain other atrocities. I remember a comedian got arrested in France for making a joke re jews. The rights here are getting pretty restricted and now people can be thrown in jail without a trial on suspicion of terrorism ect.

That said there has never been a theological govt that has been successful, Europe only came out of darkness when it separated the church and estate. We do have a full knowledge of history and secular govts do better than those based on theology.

Religion in govt manifests itself in a way where women protection bill is called blasphemous and age restriction on marriage is also called blasphemous in KSA.

Family law cannot be made more current and there are huge incidences of abuse and crimes against women

Society declaring what I can or can’t say is a slippery slope. I’d have to say France is wrong in giving semites a privileged status. Anti-semitic statements are fair game as long as the person making those statements does not call for violence against the people. A line is drawn at threatening harm to someone and that’s it.

I’m not a holocaust denier (they say it happened I don’t have a reason to doubt it). That said, I support the right of a person to deny holocaust in public space. Getting arrested for making jokes about jews, muslims, christians, satanists, etc is atrocious. No one is forcing you to listen to those jokes. Step away, change the channel, don’t read the offensive book.

I’m not going to stand behind a law just because it’s practiced by a Western nation. The best way to combat bad ideas is by educating people about good ones, teaching them how to think for themselves not banning people from expressing those bad ideas.