What Islamic Ummah?

[SaeedinPakistan]

Re: What Islamic Ummah?

@Mystique

Offcourse anyone who does not believe in the existance of God is confused. And anyone claiming to have studied enough but still not believe in his existence then they have not studied enough so they are dishonest and insincere to claim of studying with honesty and sincerity because when one does, the nature opens a 1001 ways for him to get to the truth.

Your common sense decides if daaesh is islam. What does your common sense tell you? Same for any other sector whether they practice commonsense or complications in the name of islam because islam is also as simple as commonsense. Unless your commonsense has also turned into nonsense by reading too much from pseudo intellectuals then nobody’s fault.

You believe in the coming of another porphet? If yes, then ahmedis will suit you because they are the only ones who believe that and that belief directly contradicts what the quran says and the prophet mohammed himself said. About the rest, you have to study yourself which sector beliefs your heart settles with. Personally, i dont categorize myself. Dont out nyself with any specific sector. Im without sector. Only follow commonsense taught in quran.

Ghamidi is not for confused heads. His knowledge is too superior for m.cre minds. He his very clear headed and so are most of those who follow him. Those mainstreams that oppose ghamidis are influenced by political islam and not the islam of Quran. While I may disagree with some of his views but that’s pretty normal and could be due to the fact that he is too superior in his knowledge. Or could be that he is also human and can make mistake. So does not mean people must start pointing guns on him. But mostly, all he speaks is back by solid accurate knowledge and study of islam.

I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster:rotfl:.

Offcourse anyone who does not believe in the existance of Flying Spaghetti Monster is confused. And anyone claiming to have studied enough but still not believe in his existence then they have not studied enough so they are dishonest and insincere to claim of studying with honesty and sincerity because when one does, the nature opens a 1001 ways for him to get to the truth.

Now that we got that settled. Daesh seems pretty Islamic to me. They are spreading Islam, fighting kuffar, killing infidels and enforcing Sharia. They are following Islam very closely.

I don’t believe in religion at all. However, all sects of Islam have a sizable following in Pakistan. People won’t flock to your Ghamidi just because he makes sense to you. The fight each other over who’s Islam is the correct one. And we haven’t even begun to talk about the non-muslims. Is it fair for the majority to oppress the minority? I guess it depends on if the muslims are the majority (they oppress) or the minority (they complain they aren’t getting their rights).

Religion is an extremely contentious issue as can be seen from our brief exchange on this forum. Therefore, it would be prudent to remove religion from government. We all agree that murder is wrong (we might disagree on whether death penalty is appropriate). We agree stealing and bribing are wrong. We agree on most basic things. Why bring something as contentious as religion into government and complicate our lives unnecessarily. What gives government the right to dictate how I live my life as long as I pay my taxes and am not hurting anyone.