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Originally posted by Changez_like:
**I already asked this question in 1st page of this thread, but somehow is ignored.
Can anyone answer this one please:
On "IRC", people indulge in 'cyber sex', discuss their experience (especially with opposite sex), has anyone sought ulema's opinion if it is ZINA as well?
Remember, in 'cyber sex' you are not seeing that person, you can't listen to that person (most of the time).
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Ibrahim says: Salaams to all,
Dear brothers and sisters, it is easy to understand this when we try to understand who are Muslims and what is required of them. Hence reading Surah Al-Muminun will provide the answers.
Surah 23
1 The Believers must (eventually) win through 2865
2 Those who humble themselves in their prayers; 2866
3 B}Who avoid vain talk;**
4 Who are active in deeds of charity;
5 **Who abstain from sex **2867
commentary:
2867 The Muslim must guard himself against every kind of sex abuse or sex perversion. The new psychology associated with the name of Freud traces many of our hidden motives to sex, and it is common knowledge that our refinement or degradation may be measured by the hidden workings of our sex instincts. But even the natural and lawful exercise of sex is restricted to the marriage bond, under which the rights of both parties are duly regulated and maintained. (23.5)
Further understanding toward this can be understood by knowing who will be the occupants of hell! By reading…..
74: 41 And (ask) of the Sinners:
42 "What led you into Hell-Fire?"
43 They will say: "We were not of those who prayed;"
44 "Nor were we of those who fed the indigent;"
45 "But we used to talk vanities with vain talkers;"
46 "And we used to deny the Day of Judgment"
Hence , What should Muslim do?? Read….
28:55 And when they hear vain talk they turn away there from and say: "To us our deeds and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant." 3387
Commentary:
3387 The righteous do not encourage idle talk or foolish arguments about things sacred. If they find themselves in some company in which such things are fashionable, they leave politely. Their only rejoinder is: "We are responsible for our deeds, and you for yours; we have no ill-will against you; we wish you well, and that is why we wish you to know of the knowledge we have received; after that knowledge you cannot expect us to go back to the Ignorance which we have left." (28.55)
more concerning vain talk and forbidden matters from hadiths
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith Hadith 2.555 Narrated by Ash shabi
The clerk of Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba narrated, "Muawiya wrote to Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: Write to me something which you have heard from the Prophet (p.b.u.h)." So Al-Mughira wrote: I heard the Prophet saying, "Allah has hated for you three things:
- Vain talks, (useless talk) that you talk too much or about others.
- Wasting of wealth (by extravagance).
- And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters) or asking others for something (except in great need). (See Hadith No. 591, Vol. Ill)
Does talking about sex amounts to zina?
Ibrahim says: From what I can understand by comparing various scriptures that had been revealed by Allah (swt) YES it does! we can understand this by looking at what Christ taught his followers.
Matthew 5
I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
"You have heard that it was said, `Do not commit adultery.'
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
and according to Jewish law
Lev 20:10. "`If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
Such is what had been revealed to all generations hence Islam will not be exempt from such things.
Allah (swt) knows best!
WS
Love is not gazing at each other but looking together in the same direction!