What is your zaat ?

shweetdreamz · December 8, 2005, 6:03pm

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Prince of Persia:

Whoa!!

Do people in Pakistan still follow that kind of thing? It’s so backward man, who cares about caste, tribe etc.

Allah made us into nations, languages, tribes and colors but it wasn’t a permanenet arrangement, what’s the point in being stuck with what you were a million years ago??

Demographs are a changing thing, don’t look back just accept that today your nationality is your country and it’s culture, your language is the main language of your country (Urdu for Pakistanis, Persian for Afghans/Tajiks/Iranians, Hindi for Indians), your tribe is just your paternal family not a matter of pride or superiority, your color is just your skin color not a race coz there’s only one race the human race, all races should intermarry and intermingle freely coz we’re all one species.

And caste that’s just gay man, nobody should ever follow that.

^^ wow ! such great words…are u the same guy that said the following in the white color thread???(below)

Prince of Persia:

Generally speaking I think Pakistanis are a goodlooking people whilst Indians are not so goodlooking, most Pakistanis being of Punjabi origin are quite a sexy shade of brown with other hot features, the Pakistanis from Kashmir, NWFP and Balochistan look pretty much just like Persians anyway so obviously they’re very hot and sexy, even people from Sindh and Karachi are quite hot in their own way.

I don’t however usually find other South Asians such as most Indians (except the few from northwestern parts bordering Pakistan), Bangladeshis or Sri Lankans etc. very attractive. People tell me I’m being racist when I say this because Indians are usually darker than Pakistanis but that’s definitely not the reason, Indians just have that other ‘hinduish’ phenotype and a slimy and greasy look to them, I mean Blacks are darker than either of the two but I find them quite yummy and Latinos too are quite yummy.

cool_intentions · December 11, 2005, 6:40am

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kashmiri

NeSCio · December 13, 2005, 8:53am

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cleaned up the thread. Can I request you all (esp Prince of Persia) to continue in a civilized manner?

Mega_Men · December 13, 2005, 2:00pm

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Pashtun all the way!

narial · February 15, 2006, 2:30am

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ALL ZAAT PEOPLE ARE KAMZAAT, BADZAAT

MiniMe · February 15, 2006, 2:50pm

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Ok, so I understand the tribal system, But can some one tell me why and how the names related to geographical areas are used as cast? Qurashi, Gurdaspuri, Kashmiri, and on the other hand in Pakistan, why certian casts are known from their profession, e.g., Nai, Jolaey, Lohar and many other. Now another question is can a Rajpoot be a Nai as well, or Bahtti be a lohar? or is it like you can pick and chose as you go along, is there any system?

Faruk_Khan · February 15, 2006, 7:41pm

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Zaat would mean caste which is a Hindu/Indian thing, we have tribes instead and I'm Durrani (a Pashtun tribe).

Mega_Men · February 19, 2006, 6:15pm

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well im Mohmand..and my mothers tribe is considered apart of the durrani tribes...senga yeh zama wrora?

_Lahore_Ka_Cheetah · February 20, 2006, 12:58am

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Yes. Rajpoots can be naiee as well. I don't know how to answer this question, properly. From what I know, after the fall of the Mughal Empire, people from different castes started professions which were similar or the same as another person(s) from within their caste (i.e: most tarkhans became lohars or blacksmiths, but not all; most gujjars became milkmen, but not all; etc etc), and so people started to say such things. I don't think their professions had anything to do with their ancestoral roots.

I might be wrong.

smilestar · February 20, 2006, 2:31am

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me too
what’s your last name…?

Blitzkrieg · February 20, 2006, 2:48pm

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If you are not his direct descendent than how can you be his “granddaughter” ?

Blitzkrieg · February 20, 2006, 2:48pm

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Frank!

Faruk_Khan · February 20, 2006, 7:14pm

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Salaam my bro, I’m chillin, how’s you?

It’s nice to see a fellow Pakhtun on here my maternal cousins are Mohmand too, where in Pakhtunkhwa do you hail from bro?

notallthere · February 24, 2006, 12:11am

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alizai from hazara

indik · November 7, 2008, 5:13am

you have the best ancestry any body can get , you are the lucky one from both sides you should prove it , rajputs are known for giving their head for any noble cause , you should be proud of it but in a decent way.

indik · November 7, 2008, 5:33am

iqbal descended from kashmiri brahmins , dar, kaul or butt ,supporter of two nation theory, why he believed " sare jahan se achha hinustan hamara" ,this is sung at every school of india.

Aliyish · November 7, 2008, 6:13am

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Payshah samjay thay jis hoga'ee wo ZaaT apNii :)

glamorous · November 7, 2008, 6:15am

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im pathan

X2 · November 7, 2008, 6:16am

whoaaaaa...where was this information when I was in uni..
seeeeesh

Lucid_Chaotic · November 7, 2008, 6:22am

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zaat na puuche... paat na puuche... na puuche ga tera dharma -
rabb tera puuche gaa ow bandey... kya thaa tera karma.

The first time I was asked the question about my zaat was when I visited Pakistan when I was 16 or so... and until then, I really had no concept of zaat. Needless to say that I was made fun of cuz I didn't know what zaat I was. I went home to ask my parents and they said it isn't important, and I still remember my dad's words to me at the time when he said:
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yehaaN parr log zaat paat ke chakaroN mey par kar bartari aur foqiyat ki baateyN karte heiN... aap ko iss sey koi gharz nahi rakhni chaahiye - buss khyaal rakhna key aap ka imaan aur amal durust ho. Allah ke nazdeek wohi afzal hai!*

Later on during a conversation with the extended family, I found out about the origin of our family name etc. and how it's linked to the whole zaat concept and where our ancestors were from and where they spread out to... but yes... it's surprising how prevalent the zaat based social system still is in Pakistan.