What is your jihad.

shardmanny · November 1, 2012, 6:49pm

Re: What is your jihad.

^ bhai jaan, aap to jazbaati hi ho gaye.

let us focus on the verse 2:193 that you quoted.

sher ali) And fight them until there is no persecution, and religion is *freely professed for Allah. But if they desist, then remember that no hostility is allowed except against the aggressors.
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Among non-ahmadis, I liked the translation-cum-tafsir of Shabbir Ahmed](http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/2/193/default.htm). It goes as following:

If we accept the translation you presented then we have lot of problems. You said that fighting must continue until fitnah i.e., worship of anyone other than Allah remains. sorry to say but this is a dangerous ideology and goes against what Allah says in other verses of the holy Quran. for instance, what will become of the verse 'there is no compulsion in deen’. Moreover, Allah said in Al-anam-149 that He could have made all the people believers. so diversity of religion is not a problem. Allah wants people to choose out of their own free will and not with sword.
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Also as per verse 22:39-40) *Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them —
**Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty —

now what do you say about the above verse. It simply bulldozed the idea that you projected in exposition of the verse 2:193.

so when the Muslims were persecuted, driven out of their homes etc just to oppress them in order to coerce them away from Islam then they fought. As in 2:217***, “…*****And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith, if they can…”

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sorry i do not feel what i said has been bulldozed, but i will admit my personal opinion may be out of line with current majority, if so obviously the view of majority will be closer to you. to your credit you have said you believe in Fighting in the Cause of Allah

for me Cause of Allah is seperate from self preservation but it can be same if you are a good muslim. self preservation is too wide spread an ideology to be in the ‘Cause of Allah’

i said *imo this means the governance should be for Muslims (Islam) and it is great act of virtue to gain more land for the worship of Allah SWT (capture land).

*what you are saying i said is actually the verse!

another verse:

And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do 8:39 Mohsin Khan

moulana maududi said:

Here the war aim of Islam, which had previously been declared in 11: 193, has been repeated. This aim has two aspects-- the negative and the positive. On the negative side, the aim of war is to abolish (fitnah), and on the positive,** it is to establish Allah’s Way completely and in its entirety. This is the only objective for which it is lawful, nay, obligatory for the believers to fight.** There is no other object for which fighting is lawful, and it does not behoove the believers to resort to fighting for any other objective

imo its dangerous if you are not sided or sided with the disbelievers, when you are sided to the believers it is not dangerous. actually its an insult to the believers who extended our borders with the… blessed sword. indonesia is said to be blessed by conversion alone but other then that Allah SWT extended the borders with the believers and their swords

not a very articulate view but a view non the less

dont forget to look at the MAPS preferably with the (rapid) timeline