What is your argument against secularism?

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

And that is my point. A snap shot of HDI taken for one year does not reflect any form of development. The manner in which HDI is seen as is any development indicator is the positive or negative changes over a series of years. If anybody were to compare the OCED from 2 decades ago to the HDI today. There will be a lot of changes. In the next 10 years even more.

Take Greece now and 10 years ago. Their HDI has gone down and this year will have a -5 percent growth rate thus automatically lowering the HDI even further.

Lastly HDI has no correlation to secuarlism at all. If that is the case Communist Russia should have the highest HDI of them all.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

Yeah and who said they are incapable of making a mistake? You are up for the comparing game? Let's compare Saudi Arabia to Sweden. Shall we?

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Theorist the HDI is a few decades old
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You contradict yourself.

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You clearly have no idea how HDI today is calculated. Just as countries’ rankings have dropped, their criteria for HDI has changed as well.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/hdi/

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

America is a deeply religious country.

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You seem to have a problem with differentiating between "criteria" and "examples". Please tell me something MAJOR against secularism that has happened in these countries. Burqa is hardly the most important part of Islam. Even modesty comes after a lot of things and the burqa is a subset of that, not to mention that the full-face viel is subject to intense debate between Islamic scholars.

So banning the burqa hardly counts as a major step back from secularism. In the meantime, religion does not affect the overall government policy of these secular countries.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

It is, yes. But tell me if their laws are based on the Christian religion.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

Or you can compare Israel with Nepal.

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You really aren't very smart or are too hasty.

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Take Greece now and 10 years ago. Their HDI has gone down and this year will have a -5 percent growth rate thus automatically lowering the HDI even further.
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No re-read what you quoted me saying. A snap shot does not reflect anything. Greece is a perfect example of a Secular country whose HDI has in fact gone down and will continue to decrease over time. Same with Portugal and Spain. Add Italy to that list soon enough if the Chinese do not bail them out.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

Do not know a great deal about american laws, which oen are religious and which ones are not, but their staunch support for Israel is based upon christianity.

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Prove it.

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How aptly you describe yourself.

In the case of Greece, their economic woes have nothing to do with religion, or lack thereof.

But medieval Europe owes much to secularism for its development.

As an **example, **Christianity was long a hurdle to scientific development.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

That is the econometrics behind the HDI.

Look at the indicators below. Netherlands, Canada and and a few others have lost points in their HDI. They have lower points due to the economic situation in the world.

Re: What is your argument against secularism?

What I ask is how losing points is related to being secular? Name a country that has gained points due to being more religious?

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http://www.secularnewsdaily.com/2010/06/07/christian-fundamentalists-support-israel-why/

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We were discussing HDI. And my case stands. You have yet to disprove it.

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What I ask is how losing points is related to being secular? Name a country that has gained points due to being more religious?
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Re: What is your argument against secularism?

A teddy bear ate my mobile.

My statement and the article you provided have one thing in common: Both are baseless and without proof.

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THANK YOU!!!!

Second page. First post. Last line. First sentence.

Re-read. Thank you for agreeing with me. Its good to see the blind can be lead to the light!

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If its basless then prove it. And here is another for you.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml