What is your argument against secularism?

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Re: What is your argument against secularism?

@krash

I am coming really late to this discussion, so am not sure if this argument has been made already, but here is my problem with secularism.

Secularism is essentially self-contradictory.
It claims to exclude religion from the state and therefore claims that state is neutral to all religions.

But, when religion is excluded from the state, the vaccum is filled by a “religion” called secular humanism.
This “religion” is privileged among all others and the State becomes, essentially, a church of secular humanism.

This is inevitable because there is really no such thing as an action that is value-neutral. In order to do anything at all the State must invoke some set of values. This set of values must come from some underlying world-view. That world-view, then, gets privileged over all others. Hence, the contradiction.

Peace krash

Yeah I sort of made that point earlier … however I feel that even though the supporters of secularism are themselves humanists … when a state deposes the state religion in its affairs the next strongest ideology sets in … And in the context of Pakistan … even though we think that humanism will replace the pseudo-Islamic state, it won’t because there are not enough humanists in Pakistan to make that move … What will happen however in the name of secularism … Supremacy (Nationalism) will set in instead … because other than religion this is the other wind in the sails of the common Pakistani …