These positions would be open to people of all races, religions, sexes, ethnicities, and points of view, correct?
^^ Ofcourse not.
All races = Maybe if they play nice.
Religions = Sunni Muslims Only (sorry no sufis, shiites or ahmadis (are they still considered non-muslims??)
Sexes = Hmmmmmmm 
aahh hey beavis he said sexes uh huhuh huh huh.
ethnicities = As long as you are white or brown ok, no squinty eyed muslims or black muslims from U.S or darfur.
Racism is alive and kicking in the land of Ummah. The afghan muslim doesnt get along with the punjabi muslim and that is one region now multiply it with other regions. Arabs generally speaking don’t like South Asians. As I mentioned recently UMMAH is a good concept as long as it stays in the Museum of Muslim History.
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OK heres a solution lets all meet at PD's frat house in Arizona. I'll bring the Keg (o'beer) and we'll discuss the solution.
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you are welcome...but forget the Keg and my frat house...it will be boring.... how about if i take you to the clubs in Scotsdale (phoenix suburb) to check out the nite life.......Scotsdale has one of the best nite life....after having few taquilla shots with so many beautiful faces around, our brians will finally start working and then we will find solutions for Ummah's problems.......
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the question is why are americans there, everybody knows why ....
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hahah! If everybody knows why, then where is the darned question?
Anyway this question should have been addressed to sisters and not brothers.
Or better yet, go pose this question to Arrabob hijras (eunuchs) and the Kabuli Kommie kabal. They deserved the joota on their behinds on daily basis.
Look what these Kabuli Kommies and their Arrrabob masters tried to do in Wana. I mean the area was peaceful, and these idiotic Mullahtics turn it in to a war zone. Surely that is the work of mad hijras.
Well Well For PD,and bole(antiobl) and ? verizon,there isn't any problem any way.
I think ur only problem is having a desi/muslim name and brown color,green passport.U'll gradually sort these things out,so don't worry.
The problem is for people who do not want to give up there religious and cultural identity and want to PRACTICE their religion and want their children to be able to do the same.
Khilafah at present or forseeable future has little chance if any.Shoaib saahib i am afraid Muslims have Racism deeply ingrained on their psyche.
Think about some more acheivable targets.
That was a cheap shot!
If you live and America (I assume) then you are equally responsible for feeding that great satan.
BROTHERHOOD IN ISLAM
READ IT BROTHERS...... ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS WHY KHILAFAH IS IMPORTANT
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala described this Islamic Ummah as having numerous qualities. Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala also charged this Islamic Ummah with numerous responsibilities and commandments. Islam destroyed the fragile manmade bonds of human interaction. Bonds such as nationalism, (pride in the nation), patriotism (pride in the piece of turf beneath our feet), and tribalism or bonding about any other form of grouping. Islam forbade the glorification of the nation and the division of Islamic lands. Unity is the commanded norm and disunity a forbidden abnormallity.However,the opposite situation prevails today.
Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala described the believers as humble, modest and soft to the believers and harsh to the disbelievers.
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"They are hard o_n disbelievers but humble and modest towards believers (the believers are) merciful among themselves" [Al-Qur'an: Al-Fath (48:29)].
We are obliged to unite behind a commonality that does not unite any other people. This commonality is more important than the language we speak, or the colour of our skin, the region we originate from or the food we eat. This commonality is the Aqeeda (basis) of Islam. It is a foundation which recognises that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala is the creator and sustainer of man, He (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) is the o_nly o_ne able to determine the rules and laws which govern our lives. That is both in individual and societal relations. Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala said in the Qur’an,
æÇÚÊÕãæÇ ÈÍÈá Çááå ÌãíÚÇð æáÇ ÊÝÑÞæÇ
“And hold fast all of you to the rope of Allah and do not be divided amongst yourselves” [TMQ Ale-Imran: 103]
It has a complete system of life able to provide solutions for the numerous problems and disputes we face as an Ummah.
Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) has verily ordered that the believers are brothers:
ÅäãÇ ÇáãÄãäæä ÅÎæÉ
“The believers are naught else than brothers” [TMQ Al-Hujurat: 10]
Allah (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) also clearly indicates that the o_nly significant difference between Muslims is that of Taqwa, as indicated in Surah Hujurat verse 13.
Åä ÃßÑãßã ÚäÏ Çááå ÃÊÞÇßã
“Lo! The noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct.” [TMQ Al-Hujurat: 13]
So, if this Ummah is o_ne, and our Deen is o_ne Deen, and our Creator (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala) is o_ne Creator (Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala), there should not be any division in this Ummah.
It was narrated in the Madinah covenant, that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said:
ÇáãÓáãæä ãä ÞÑíÔ æíËÑÈ æãä ÊÈÚåã ÝáÍÞ Èåã æÌÇåÏ ãÚåã ÃãÉ æÇÍÏÉ ãä Ïæä ÇáäÇÓ
“The Muslim from Yathrib and Quraish, and the people that fought with them are o_ne Ummah to the exclusion of all other Ummah.”
How does this unity manifest itself in our actions? The answer to this is explained by the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) when he said:
ÇáãÓáãæä ßÑÌá æÇÍÏ Åä ÇÔÊßì Úíäõå ÇÔÊßì ßáøõå¡ æÅä ÇÔÊßì ÑÃÓõå ÇÔÊßì ßáøõå
“The Muslims are as o_ne man, if the eye hurts, the whole body hurts, and if the head hurts, the whole body hurts”
The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) also said:
“Indeed your father is o_ne, your Lord is o_ne. There is no preference over the Arab over the non-Arab, and a non- Arab over the Arab, nor black over the red or red over the black, except in Taqwa.”
He then asked the Sahabah “Did I convey the message?” They replied, “Yes”. He then said “May the o_ne who witnessed this, convey it to the o_ne who is absent.”
Therefore like the example of the body, which we are acquainted with, if we get an ear infection, our whole body will feel the pain and we would have many sleepless nights until the pain subsides. The body of this Ummah is in constant pain from the killing of our brothers and sisters throughout the world due to the occupation and division of our lands. Our reaction to this must be o_ne of unease and anger, which must motivate us to ease their situation.
These Ahadith also indicate that our skin colour, language or nationality has no bearing in the sight of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala. However, what does distinguish o_ne man from another is the Taqwa that they possess. This is a reflection of their obedience to the commands of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’aala and the worship of Him alone.
Rasool-Allah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said ‘Allah does not regard your bodies and appearances, but looks at your hearts.’ (Muslim)
The description by the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam of nationalism, tribalism and patriotism in a manner which classes it as dirty is a rebuke to this Ummah to stay away from such thngs, he Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam:
ÏÚæåÇ ÝÅäåÇ ãäÊäÉ
“Leave it, it is rotten”
So it is an obligation upon the Muslims everywhere in the world to understand the Muslims as o_ne Ummah, to the exclusion of other people. We must not fall into the traps of the Kuffar by abandoning our duty to the Islamic Ummah. Whether Iraq is attacked as Afghanistan to this day is bombed, if any Muslim country is attacked we should not view this as an attack against an individual country, it is in fact an attack against us which we must oppose just as if we were personally being attacked and the lives of our family were at risk.
RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said,
"None of you has believed until they love for their brother that which they love for themselves." [Muslim and Bukhari]
The linkage of being a believer with this action is a command to enact it. As we want security and safety for ourselves we must want this to also be something which all the Muslims possess. This Ramadhan we must not occupy ourselves in our own lives to the extent that we neglect the problems of the Islamic Ummah the world over.
"It is sufficient evil for a Muslim that he should look down upon his brother. The life, wealth, and honour of a Muslim are inviolable by another Muslim" [Sahih Muslim].
Practically, we must not stay silent to the allowance by the Governments over the Islamic regions to provide their bases to attack Iraq and others . That is regardless of whether the United Nations grants permission or not. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’aala has not provided His permission. Who is more merciful to the Muslims, in this world and the next, the UN or Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’aala)? So, who should we turn to for approval or disapproval the UN or Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’aala)?
Let us look at a few examples of the mentality of brotherhood which existed amongst the Sahabah. Prior to Islam they possessed love solely for their tribe. Prior to Islam they prided themselves in their indulgences in the degradation and darkness of petty conflicts.
We should reflect o_n how Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta’aala) granted RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam the Islamic State in Medina. He (RasoolAllah, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) performed the Hijra (emigration to Dar al Islam) with the Muhajirun (The Emigrants) and with the support of the powerful tribes of Yathrib, the Ansar (The Helpers). He (RasoolAllah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) bound, in brotherhood, both people who were originally alien to each other. Both Peoples had embraced Islam and were therefore united by something superior in power than petty nationhood.
Therefore the actions of the Ansar exhibited this feeling and brotherhood, the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam joined individuals from the Muhajirun (who o_n the whole given up all their wealth to migrate to the land of Islam) with the Ansar.
Saad ibn Ar'Rabie' was a very rich man from the Ansar. The Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam joined him with Abdurrahman ibn Awf in a bond of brotherhood. When the two new brothers walked together, Saad said to Abdurrahman: I am o_ne of the richest people among the Ansar. I will divide my property into two equal shares and give you o_ne share of it. Moreover, I have two wives. You choose the o_ne you like better and I will divorce her, so that after she has finished her waiting period you may marry her." Abdurrahman said: "May Allah bless you and your family and your wealth. You o_nly need to show me your market place."
In general the Sahabah who were reared in an atmosphere of practical brotherhood of the new Islamic State in Medina realized the importance of this commodity.
Umar Bin Al-Khattab Radiallahu Anhu said:
"Encountering your brothers lifts all grief. If Allah blesses you with good relations with another Muslim, hold fast to it."
Ali ibn Abi Talib Radiallahu Anhu said:
"Pay attention to your brothers for they are your provision in this life and in the hereafter. Do you not listen to the cry of the people of the fire?
ÝóãóÇ áóäóÇ ãöä ÔóÇÝöÚöíäó æóáóÇ ÕóÏöíÞò Íóãöíãò
"So we have no o_ne to intercede for us nor any dear friend" The verse he recited is Ash-Shu'araa: 100-101.
BROTHERHOOD IN ISLAM PART 2
But the example of the first Khaleefha, Abu Bakr As-Siddiq is the most awe inspiring,
At Badr, o_ne of Abu Bakr's sons, who had not yet embraced Islam, was fighting o_n the side of the Makkan Mushrikeen (Polytheists). Afterwards, when he became a Muslim, he o_ne day said, "Father! at Badr you were twice under my sword. But my love for you held back my hand."
"Son!" remarked Abu Bakr, "if I had got that chance o_nly o_nce, you must have been no more."
Khalid ibn Al-Waleed also manifested the brotherhood of Islam transcending the ties of kinship. In a battle his brother who was not Muslim was captured as prisoner of war, his brother asked him for his freedom crying out to him as a brother. Khalid replied to the Muslims who were tying him, tie him tight, his mother will pay a huge ransom. And then he turned to his blood brother; pointing to the Muslims he said ‘ these people are more closer to me as brothers than you’
As Muslims we must exhibit the practical implications of being a part of the Islamic Ummah, we must expose the geographic and political divisions in this Ummah which allows us to be prey to attacks and killings by the Kuffar colonialist nations, we must realize that the practical unity will not exist until we are united behind o_ne Khaleefah who rules over our affairs by the Kitab and the Sunnah.
what would be the consequences if insurgents went political? It worked for Sadr no?
"As Muslims we must exhibit the practical implications of being a part of the Islamic Ummah, we must expose the geographic and political divisions in this Ummah which allows us to be prey to attacks and killings by the Kuffar colonialist nations, we must realize that the practical unity will not exist until we are united behind o_ne Khaleefah who rules over our affairs by the Kitab and the Sunnah."
^^Guess who was Valedictorian of his madrassa?
Ok, I'll bite. Other than the Quran, show me some real world evidence that an Islamic Ummah can work. We all know about the Ottoman empire which collapsed a decade ago. What makes you think that your scheme will actually succeed in today's world? Could the Ummah live in Peace with Isreal for example?
what Israel?
AS my apologies if you saw it that way, that was not the intention, in other words there was no mean intention associated with the comment. 
Yeah I do live here and am fully aware that it is my taxdollar at use. :soldier: 
I’m lovin’it 
PD Tequila and putty cats, and I got a solution 
LS Whats up? 
It is not allowed that the Kuffar should have control over the Muslims
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Ok, I'll bite. Other than the Quran, show me some real world evidence that an Islamic Ummah can work. We all know about the Ottoman empire which collapsed a decade ago. What makes you think that your scheme will actually succeed in today's world? Could the Ummah live in Peace with Isreal for example?
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The Islamic Ummah was her own master, the source of her own decisions and holding the reigns of her own power, where none had authority over her. She was the leading nation in the world, dominating the international situation and drawing world politics for nearly thirteen centuries.
Today, after the sunlight of the Khilafah has disappeared from sight, the Islamic Ummah has become the spoils of war for the greedy Kuffar. Her decision making became in their hands, her policies are subservient to them, her economy tied to them, her weapons dependent o_n them, her sovereignty under their feet and her resources booty for them. She accepts all of this even though Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala has forbidden it to her. He subhanahu wa ta’ala said:
æóáóäú íóÌúÚóáó Çááøóåõ áöáúßóÇÝöÑöíäó Úóáóì ÇáúãõÄúãöäöíäó ÓóÈöíáÇð (ÇáäÓÇÁ: 141
"And never will Allah grant to the disbelievers a way over the believers." [TMQ 4:141]
Ruling by that which Allah has revealed and the forcing of the rules of Islam in all affairs of life cannot be attained without the presence of a state. Allah has made the state a method for the implementation of the laws of the Shari’a. The Messenger sallallahu alaihi wassallam established the state ever since he migrated from Makkah al-mukarrama to Madinah al-munawwara, where the verses of legislation and the solutions for the problems of life began to be revealed o_ne after another. The Prophet sallallahu alaihi wassallam used to implement whatever was revealed to him in terms of the Ahkam (rules) at the very moment they were revealed until the revelation of Islam was made complete, and His subhanahu wa ta’ala saying was revealed:
Çáúíóæúãó íóÆöÓó ÇáøóÐöíäó ßóÝóÑõæÇ ãöäú Ïöíäößõãú ÝóáÇó ÊóÎúÔóæúåõãú æóÇÎúÔóæúäöí Çáúíóæúãó ÃóßúãóáúÊõ áóßõãú Ïöíäóßõãú æóÃóÊúãóãúÊõ Úóáóíúßõãú äöÚúãóÊöí æóÑóÖöíÊõ áóßõãú ÇáÅöÓúáÇóãó ÏöíäðÇ Ýóãóäú ÇÖúØõÑøó Ýöí ãóÎúãóÕóÉò ÛóíúÑó ãõÊóÌóÇäöÝò áÅöËúãò ÝóÅöäøó Çááøóåó ÛóÝõæÑñ ÑóÍöíãñ (ÇáãÇÆÏÉ: 3
"This day, I have perfected your religion for you, and completed My Favour upon you, and chosen for you Islam as Deen" [TMQ 5:3]
The Messenger of Allah was a messenger who received the message from his Lord so as to convey it to the people. He was also a ruler and a leader of a state in which he implemented that which Allah had revealed to him.
After the journey of the Messenger sallallahu alaihi wassallam to his Lord, Most Sublime, came the state of the Righteous Caliphs (Khulafa ar-Rashidin). The Khulafa used to implement everything that had been revealed by Allah of the systems and laws. The ruling by that which Allah has revealed continued in the Islamic state after them until it was destroyed after the 1st World War at the hands of the Kafir Mustafa Kamal who was of Jewish origin and a British agent. He did so, by the instruction of Britain, the disbelieving state and the enemy of Islam and the Muslims.
Indeed the whole of the Israeli establishment, including Goldstein and Rabin have dipped their hands in Muslim blood.
The ongoing massacre of Muslims by individuals or kaffir states, has been the situation ever since the destruction of our defender - the Islamic State. Muslims must realize that the only solution to the Palestinian problem is a full liberation of Palestine. This cannot be done except by re-establishing the necessary capability – in the form of the Islamic State.
Let us not mourn the deaths of those who were slain. Prophet Muhammad said, in translation, "The fasting person has two happy occasions, one when he breaks his fast and the other when he meets his Rabb." We pray that Allah rewards those who were murdered as Shaheeds or Martyrs. And if so then these Martyrs are now experiencing those two happy occasions, and therefore there is no need to mourn for them. However, as for those of us on earth, if we want to receive the same reward, it is then obligatory upon us to work for the complete liberation of not only Palestine, but also Kashmir, Chechnia, and all Islamic lands currently occupied by regimes of kufr.
O Muslim Ummah, let us answer the call of Allah and His Messenger, when they call us to that which gives us life.
^^Well that little rant certainly clears everything right up for me.....
ALLAH HO AKBAR
*Nafi‘a reported saying: “ ‘Umar said to me that he heard the Prophet (saw) saying: Whoso takes off his hand from allegiance to Allah (swt) will meet Him (swt) on the Day of Resurrection without having any proof for him, and whoso dies whilst there was no bay‘ah (allegiance or a pledge) on his neck (to a Khaleefah), he dies a death of jahilliyah.” - Nafi'a *
liveshoaib,
When speaking to non-mullahs, particulary people from around the world who read this on the internet, try speaking plain old english without quoting the Quran. Not that the Quran is not important, but you have your book and I have mine.
Just say it in your own words, you might have something interesting to say.
(if this doesn't work we may have to send him to cult deprogramming)
Re: It is not allowed that the Kuffar should have control over the Muslims
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The Islamic Ummah was her own master, ....
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When?
Oh yes! when the Ottomons were beating the crap out of Egyptians and the Wahabis from Hijaz.
The result my Mullahtic friend was plain and simple. Both Egyptians Muslims, and Modern day Saudi Mutawwahs took revenge and beat the crap out of Turks with the help of Brits. Sharif-e-Makkah lead the attack on Kaba and fired shots on the holy place.
Off course you will forget all that and continue cutting and pasting from unknown Saudi and Egyptian web sites. Do you know that it is like stealing from a web site if you don't provide a link. Do you know that stealing carries a Khalifatic punishment of chopping your hand.
You ought to thanks America where you can cut a paste without worrying about your hands (not even a slap on the wrist). Lucky you.
I DONT CARE
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The result my Mullahtic friend was plain and simple. Both Egyptians Muslims, and Modern day Saudi Mutawwahs took revenge and beat the crap out of Turks with the help of Brits. Sharif-e-Makkah lead the attack on Kaba and fired shots on the holy place.
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some of these events did happen in ISLAMIC RULE but u cant blame ISLAM.
what Bill Clinton did to Monica, no one has blamed democracy for that have u, he was just a ruler of usa. Islam is a perfect deen and u cant blame islamic state for that, there were mushrikeen who tried to corrupt ISLAM.
For what u say american laws, I dont care for man made laws.
yours vs theirs
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For what u say american laws, I dont care for man made laws.
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islamic laws are as much man made as american. Its just that you as a muslim believe that the men from whom u learned about the islamic laws did not use their own mind and grey matter to devise these laws and were just reciting what your God told them. In other words it is YOUR belief that what you consider islamic laws are not man made, just man recited.
Isnt it possible that some american dude few hundred years ago read your not-so-man-made laws and thought "wow man...this is cool stuff, i think i am gonna convince the other 400+ members of american shur'a and make this our law" ?
well if u understand
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islamic laws are as much man made as american. Its just that you as a muslim believe that the men from whom u learned about the islamic laws did not use their own mind and grey matter to devise these laws and were just reciting what your God told them. In other words it is YOUR belief that what you consider islamic laws are not man made, just man recited.
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who made ur mind and it is He SWT who made laws......when u leave man to decide what is right and wrong and that is what u go mad as you are in iraq killin innocents and have a look at US that how many women are raped a day.......same in UK and all western countries.....
"Islam is the best chance the poor of the planet have for any hope of decency in their lives. It is the one revolutionary force that cares about humanity." [1998] - Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark